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      • PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland [he/him]
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        It would surprise me if it was Huawei. Huawei is largely owned and democratically controlled by its workers, remarkable in its structure even for an AES country like China and one of very few large firms of this kind in the world (this is why the Failed States tries so hard to smear and destroy it, harder than say for example Xiaomi, which is publicly traded and subject to the whims of capital). If you are talking about pushback from software firms maybe you are thinking of eg. Tencent or Alibaba, which are publicly traded.

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          • PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland [he/him]
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            The CEO does have more shares than most but more or less it follows that model. It really is quite amazing, learning about it was a bit of a revelation for me.

            https://www.huawei.com/my/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei

            There's a reason America hates it and wants it destroyed.

            • PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland [he/him]
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              All that aspirational talk you hear about industrial democracy from the "libertarian" left in western countries? Yeah that actually concretely exists. In "authoritarian" China. On the scale of companies that can go toe to toe with fucking Google and win.

              Of course they will tell you Huawei is evil.

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                Also also this is a big reason why the Failed States is so hellbent on stifling the development of Chinese microelectronics. Imagine if it got out that really, China is the democracy, a country of free citizens of democratic firms battling a hegemonic empire representing the divine right of modern despotic kings, the private shareholders. The ones who demand starvation, immiseration, the blood sacrifice of layoffs to satisfy their demented fucking god, the capital market.

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                  Of course this is not to say that all Chinese firms are like this or that China is perfect. But please understand, unlike the Failed States, China is trying. China is constructing socialism with communism as an aspirational goal. And China has been forced by the Failed States and international market forces to cede ground in various ways regarding even its internal structure. But how are we, from outside, from countries that are not even trying, to judge any of this too harshly?

                  In China, Huawei can exist. You don't see it in California.

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        • PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland [he/him]
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          To offer a small partial answer to your question though, learning about Huawei and the fact that such a firm was able to exist in China while so relentlessly attacked by the Failed States of America and its imperial subjects, the profound difference between the reality one discovers about this specific company and the propaganda, is a big reason I personally have a positive view of the modern Chinese state.