Apparently the hammer and sickle specter is too terrifying for the libs at lemm.ee

Adjust your posting accordingly so as to not disturb their delicate sensibilities

Edit: Mod responds!

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
    hexbear
    72
    11 months ago

    I am also extremely aware of constant Kremlin propaganda. Propaganda which is spread both in their media, but also crucially in online channels. Propaganda which includes things like downplaying horrifying actions of the soviet union, portraying their "enemies" (the west) in the worst possible light, and mixing in soviet symbolism wherever possible.

    Lmao is Putin in the room with you right now

    • @Fuckass
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    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      I want to emphasize that Russia is not concerned with Anglo propoganda, they are primarily and only concerned with reaching out to the third world, China, and their own populace. Maybe if you speak Russian or another Slavic language you will receive propoganda, but the amount of propoganda that Russia sends English speakers is negligible and to pretend that it is at all a factor in online English discourse is literally reiterating completely debunked Russia-gate propoganda. You are literally more likely to unknowingly run into Scientology propoganda than you are Russian propaganda. This is the ravings of someone who's so far in the Kool-Aid they are seeing red everywhere.

    • @sunaurus@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Go check out this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/337698

      Compare some of the (highly upvoted) comments by Hexbear users to Russian media talking points.

      1. Constantly trying to divert the conversation away from the fact that nazis and soviets occupied Estonia for half a century, trying to drive the discussion onto some smaller details
      2. Trying to diminish the number of victims of the occupation
      3. Calling people nazis for condemning the nazi and soviet occupations in Europe
      4. Glorifying occupiers - "heroism of Soviet partisans"

      I'm not sure if you've ever watched Russian state tv, but if not, I can assure you that this kind of thing is literally their bread and butter.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        hexbear
        20
        11 months ago

        Russians also acknowledge that the sky is blue. Are you compelled to believe the opposite lest you fall for scary Russian talking points?

      • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]
        hexbear
        15
        11 months ago

        Estonia was a member republic of the USSR. The idea that it was occupied in any way is fascist propaganda, lmao. You're a nazi. Enjoy licking western boots, just remember that when shit hits the fan, they'll boot you out of the white club and into being an "Asiatic" whenever it serves their interest.

  • edge [he/him]
    hexbear
    65
    11 months ago

    lol they locked the thread after being asked for their opinion on Roma people.

    • @sunaurus@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      I locked the thread after Hexbear users started spamming it with meme images.

      It's not really a matter of opinion anyway, there were a lot of confirmed Roma people among the victims of the occupations in Estonia. Many were killed during the years we were occupied by the nazis, and of course any remaining ones had their freedom taken away for the following decades during the soviet occupation.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
        hexbear
        17
        11 months ago

        Even with victims of genocide you try to draw a false equivalence with the Soviets. Are you gonna do Jews next?

  • Rom [he/him]
    hexbear
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    11 months ago

    After a week of making fun of really bad takes we're now seeing an uptick of "we should defederate from hexbear" posts.

    We're too powerful.

      • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
        hexbear
        18
        11 months ago

        @Odo@lemm.ee responded how the hammer and sickle are symbols of liberation in many parts of the world. The admin mentioned it was a good point but they still weren’t comfortable with it. Only 1 person caught a temp ban.

        The admin’s official statement on hexbear federation:

        For the time being, I have no plans to change our federation policy. I realize this is not what you want to hear, and I’m sorry to disappoint you. It’s just not a goal for lemm.ee to curate external instances for now.

        There are probably many instances out there that have horrible content (content which would get users banned if they posted it on lemm.ee), but vetting instances and maintaining a defederation list is a big effort, and I believe this effort is much better spent elsewhere.

        I’ve stated this in many other similar threads, but let me also reiterate here: the above should not be taken to mean that lemm.ee is some bastion of free speech absolutism. Users or communities breaking rules on lemm.ee are dealt with. Also, we do reserve the right to defederate any instance which starts causing problems for lemm.ee on a bigger scale (so in cases where banning individual users is not effective).

        I realize this is a topic where it’s impossible to make everybody happy, because each person has their own view on what should be federated or defederated. At the end of the day, for anything that’s not illegal or directly hurting lemm.ee, I believe it’s best to leave these decisions up to users - you can make your own choices with which users and communities you block, and I’m certain that soon you’ll have the tools built in to Lemmy itself to make the same decision on an instance level as well. And if that doesn’t work for you, then there’s always the possibility of joining a different instance with a different approach to federation.

        Admin has some bad political takes but still says “curate your own content or leave”.

        • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
          hexagon
          hexbear
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          11 months ago

          I kinda think that someone who thinks that Soviet symbols are so self-evidently beyond the pale that there's no need to even mention them in the rules is probably not going to put up with Hexbear for very long

  • @Fuckass
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    • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      11 months ago

      This is great! Haven’t seen Hungary’s before, that’s a fun one.

      The admin was receptive to this point but the policy stands for now.

      Odo(at)lemmee

      Equating Nazi symbolism with Soviet ones just feels like such a weird thing to do, there's a reason Nazi symbols are banned in several (if not a majority) of European countries, but is not the case at all when it comes to soviet symbols. I think it's specially disappointing because the image that was originally shared was a reference to the "spectre" line in the communist manifesto. The hammer and sickle symbol has a long history that supersedes the history of the Soviet Union as a state, even my "third-world country" in Latin America (I'm sure you can see in the logs where I'm posting from) has a history of using the symbol for liberatory causes.

      sunaurus(at)lemmee

      That's a very important point, thanks for the comment. For me, such symbolism immediately associates with people glorifying the soviet union, but I understand that there can be lots of people out there who don't associate it with Russia at all.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
    hexbear
    43
    11 months ago

    Seriously, who the fuck are these losers from "lemmy.ee" seems like every dogshit commenter on this site originates there

    Love being federated with a bunch of ultra randian pedophiles

    • JuryNullification [he/him]
      hexbear
      34
      11 months ago

      I have noticed a couple cool ones, but they’ll migrate here if their nazi admins defederate

    • leftofthat [he/him]
      hexbear
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      11 months ago

      To them that's basically half a swastika with a compass

  • Mindfury [he/him]
    hexbear
    35
    11 months ago

    scratch an admin of a new lemmy instance, etc etc

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          18
          11 months ago

          Yeah but .ml is Mali so it clearly can't be assumed nationality and domain correspond

          • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
            hexbear
            17
            11 months ago

            In some cases. When an admin running a site in Estonia mentions being in a former Soviet eastern euro country it can.