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Libs: "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT THERE'S GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG, AND IF YOU DARE TO BRING UP THE LACK OF EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT OF ABUSE FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS YOU'LL GET BANNED!!!!"
Also libs: "Didn't you know that 15k of the 40k humans murdered in Gaza were actually terrorists? 
Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it's sad but inevitable"
Fuuuuuuuuuck this shit.
I'm not going to pretend China wasn't heavy handed and that there's stuff to criticise in there but the outcome is way fucking better than the western approach to islamic extremism. No deaths to speak of and the extremism ended completely. Compared to the western approach of incarceration and bombing it works 1000x better.
Thing is, the debate never was about whether the reeducation camps were excessive, it's about genocide. People still believe the unsubstantiated claims of mass sterilisation, people still believe that the Uyghur culture is being destroyed (the other day someone posted a video of the youtube channel Little Chinese Everywhere visiting Xinjiang which clearly shows otherwise)... It's extremely sad how, after 3+ years of no new claims because there isn't even any way to make up evidence anymore, people still believe there's an ongoing genocide
I don't think they do. Fascists say the wrong things on purpose. They know there's no genocide going on in China. However, they need a narrative to justify sinophobia and anti-communism.
Libs are sealioning to push the modern White Man's Burden. Accusations of genocide, homophobia, misogyny, etc. is always directed at non-white countries who aren't doing what the Imperial Core wants them to do.
If they actually cared about genocide, they would be doing something about the treatment of Native Americans, instead of throwing them in jail and building oil pipelines on what little land they have left. If they cared about homophobia, they'd stamp out the GOP and vote out politicians passing anti-LBTQ+ legislation. If they cared about racism, they'd abolish police and prisons. If they cared about women, they'd make abortion and gender equality constitutional rights.
Since they do not do these things, the only conclusion to be had is they use accusations as a way of deflecting criticism and justifying imperialism.
I think a lot of people heard "China is doing a genocide" five years ago, took it as fact, and have simply baked it into their worldview ever since.
Libs and chuds do the same thing with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Hell, I've heard people spew the "Soviets allied with the Nazis" tripe without even knowing the name of the pact; it's just accepted as common knowledge.
They took it as fact because it justifies American exceptionalism. There's no critical thought around it because it helps spurn the narrative of the US being the world's greatest democracy. If you start thinking other countries have better rights and freedoms than the US, that narrative falls apart.
This same tactic has been used to demonize North Korea and Iraq. Liberals know this, which is why they continue using it against countries like China and Palestine.
Can confirm we just lost several members of our friend-group to the "but chYna" rhetoric. Libs gunna lib.
Nah you dont talk to casual libs enough. They read about a genocide of Uighers and believe it and thats it. Its an incredibly effective psyop. To believe noone actually believes its actually real is silly. Not that long ago i posted something from an anticolonial account posting awareness of all the ongoing genocides on the planet (you can find it in my post history). It wasnt one of the main ones, bit deep in the replies it did mention Xinjiang and the invasion of Ukraine as ongoing genocides too. Well meaning people sincerely believe it because its a psyop that targets well meaning people.
Yeah I agree with you
Turned out it wasn't excessive, at least not compared to basically every other possible alternative. It was also completely uncharted territory in the field of terrorism alleviation and prevention and the success is unprecedented.