• AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    14 days ago

    Since you asked I'd love to hear your explanation for this:

    I don't think this is a good one to use as agitprop. Read these facts from the perspective of someone who is sympathetic to the left, but who isn't all the way there yet:

    "Bible said the girl gave Beaver Falls police a fake name, Mae Wilson, and a fake birthday that indicated she was 18 years old. Although, she told officers several times she was a juvenile. Police told the girl they would release her to her parents, but she claimed she was homeless and from the Pittsburgh area."

    "Beaver Falls police called Beaver County CYS when she disclosed she was from Pittsburgh. They contacted Allegheny County CYS to try to find any information on her, but since she gave a fake name, no one had any records of the individual,” Bible said."

    Note that one big reason people give fake names upon arrest is that they know they are wanted for more serious crimes.

    There are things to criticize here, but it's a bad example to push when there are a million other much clearer miscarriages of justice out there.

    This is you saying that they didn't do such a bad job here considering as soon as they learned information they acted on it and did get her home safe, and especially compared to this the cops are doing WAY worse stuff that we should focus on instead, correct?

    But that misses a lot of points as I and others explained. For example, I said:

    Yeah that 13 year old really seemed like an adult I'm sure, nothing to be concerned about here!

    Another user also pointed out that it is ridiculous that they wouldn't just check the missing peoples registry if there is any suspicion, or even as a matter of protocol, let alone if the person was a 13 year old. I find it highly spurious that they weren't the least bit suspicious of her age, this detail alone, unless it comes out that this 13 year old is like 6'4" and looks 18 this is absolutely wack. Let's be real, this sounds like they "found out" she was 13 like how they often "found out" the suspect was actually unarmed. ACAB is SYSTEMIC, theres a reason why we care about all the manifestations this takes, because you have to see it everywhere to understand that it is a system, otherwise its just a problem with a few racist cops.

    but your response was just:

    There it is

    There the fuck WHAT is??

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        14 days ago

        in my zeal to make this post I accidentally blocked the ACAB comm and all my posts vanished and I spent like 20 minutes messaging mods and being like aahhh what happened?

        But I pushed through it and wrote this post and then I hit cancel instead of edit after checking the preview before posting, and then had to rewrite the whole thing. BUT I DID IT ANYWAY

        CAUSE I WANNA FUCKIN KNOW

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      14 days ago

      but your response was just:

      There it is

      There the fuck WHAT is??

      Yes please! Answer this! This mystery must be solved

    • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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      14 days ago

      This is you saying that they didn’t do such a bad job here

      I've said a number of times that criticizing the cops is fair here, and that we should check their story. I'm saying this isn't a great one to spread as agitprop because people who are not as hostile to cops as us won't dismiss these facts the way we do.

      but your response was just:

      There it is

      On a forum with multiple Jeffrey Epstein emojis, a "yeah that 13 year old really seemed like an adult" comment was inevitable. I wasn't really sure what you were getting at or if you were just making an oblique joke.

      As for why the cops didn't think "this person isn't really 18" or why they didn't look through photos of missing people: again, criticizing the cops is fair here, and that we should check their story. I don't know how to say that more clearly.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        14 days ago

        What I was getting at is theres no way that kid was legitimately believed by the cops to be 18, was that not obvious??

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        14 days ago

        But that isn't what the acab comm is for. It is for posting about cops doing fucked up shit

        • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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          14 days ago

          Ok, I won't comment in the acab comm about whether the stories there are good agitprop.

          Would have loved to have had this exchange instead of a bunch of people putting words in my mouth.

          • ShariaLawZ [he/him]
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            14 days ago

            who asked you to rank all of our posts on how good of agitprop they are? like why are you even taking this mantle upon yourself?

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            14 days ago

            Ok, I won't comment in the acab comm about whether the stories there are good agitprop.

            You keep going back to that as if it's a good defense. No one cares about your agitprop evaluation fig leaf.

            Nobody put words in your mouth. Take some responsibility for what you've actually said.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        14 days ago

        On a forum with multiple Jeffrey Epstein emojis, a "yeah that 13 year old really seemed like an adult" comment was inevitable.

        ?

      • robinnist [he/him]
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        14 days ago

        On a forum with multiple Jeffrey Epstein emojis, a "yeah that 13 year old really seemed like an adult" comment was inevitable. I wasn't really sure what you were getting at or if you were just making an oblique joke.

        I refuse to believe you are this stupid. It’s not possible.