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I would actually take The Intercept off that list and replace with Drop Site news, since that's the new site that Jeremy Scahill and Ryan Grim started after their departure from The Intercept. Basically the PMC and NGO class went and enshittified The Intercept
I didn't know this.
All good, I'm a disgruntled founding subscriber of The Intercept and went to one of their live events, so I have an axe to grind
The intercept still regularly has worthwhile reporting, but no way would they publish anything like what Drop Site is currently.
Should we include breaking points because it includes Ryan and Krystal ball, or exclude it because they co-host with reactionaries?
I only followed Ryan Grim's writing stuff not his video ventures. I'd leave that up to others to decide but I think hosting with reactionaries designates that it's an entertainment product with news like characteristics. Do they do any of their own reporting or is it just hot takes?
For the most part, it's a morning show slash news roundup podcast. They do have some partnerships, like with Jordan Chariton of Status Coup who reports on Flint, MI and East Palestine, OH.
They do some reporting, but it's a lot of hot takes. A few days ago they had a really in depth talk with Jeffrey Sachs about how the US and Wall Street screwed over Russia after the illegal disillusion of the USSR (he was one of the architects of the color revolution in Poland but becomes very disillusioned by the mid 90s, so he would come across as very credible to any lib you show it to)
Yeah, their interviews are some of their most useful segments. Sometimes they interview local reporters too!
They have great people on like Dr. Trita Parsi
Wouldn't call them totally enshittified but agreed that Drop Site has the better reporting now.
The Intercept is still pretty great. That happened a while ago and the articles they are putting out still cover the same kind of topics and from the same positions, at least that I've noticed. Every article I've seen has been covering stuff that the mainstream media wouldn't, and from the left. I don't go to their site to skim, but I haven't seen any bad articles.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/why-im-resigning-from-the-intercept
Klip is awesome. I'm so glad he went out on his own to do what he does best.
make crass comments about Raisi dying in a helicopter crash?
I don't know who Raisi is nor am I following Ken so closely that I'm aware of everything he says or does. Also I'm not the crass comment police.
From what I've seen he does good work. I don't think there's ever been a public figure who doesn't fuck up once in awhile, and if there is they're a fucking liar or good at hiding their flaws.
when reporters signal their support for US state department narratives it reveals a lot
Again, I don't know what you're referring to. I can tell you feel strongly about whatever it is. If you want to explain it better and get me on board with it you'll need to add some context around who this person is and why what Ken said about them is problematic.
The work I've seen him crush is putting in endless FOIAs to expose massive wrongdoing at all levels of government and he doesn't seem to pull any punches on whether it's the right or the left fucking around or finding out, and I value that. But I'm still not hip to everything he says or does regards whom, and I'm not enough of a fanboy to drop what I'm doing right now to go down that particular rabbit hole. I do know he left the intercept over enshittification, on principal, which for a writer is a very risky but awesome and empowering move if it works out for him.
miz is referring to Ken Klippenstein joining in on the jokes when Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi died in the helicopter crash.
Thanks, now I understand. NGL I have and will again make comments like that when any number of people die (I'm not proud of that, it's just a fact) but I probably wouldn't do it so publicly. I'm also not a public figure. Is saying something dumb like this on his part enough to disregard the real work he's doing? I'm not convinced.
I watch a lot of John Oliver so frankly this particular tweet looks pretty tame to me. 🤷
I'm aware of what happened. I've read that article.
I'm not sure what you think that has to do with what I said.
It's not as simple as
They aren't going to just flip a switch and go from writing good articles to bad articles. It's going to be more of, what articles do they not write?
For all Glenn Greenwald's flaws, the thing that made him leave The Intercept was the pushback he got from all these people in the part of the organization that Ken talks about that don't do reporting but somehow keeps growing, that his stories were making Biden look bad and that it was helping Trump.
That's classic behavior from Manufacturing Consent. Choosing to not publish stories or not cover certain topics.
I think the same thing happened to Jeremy Scahill. His big interview with one of the top leaders in Hamas was part of Dropsite News' debut.
The Intercept probably didn't want to run that article.