• Bobby_DROP_TABLES [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    We did basically do the Charlie Brown football trick to them with NATO membership. The US knew full well that Russia would take military action and the US still made false promises to Ukraine because they wanted to mire the region in a proxy war.

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I don't think americans and the rest of 'the west' realize how much resentment is going to be felt by Ukraine by the end of this. Zelensky has already made several remarks to the media about being honeydicked by the west to their benefit and his downfall. Remember when good old BoJo bojo scuttled an already settled peace talk between Ukraine and Russia on the promise of enough aid to win the war? How's that shit going? And then you have people constantly saying shit like this:

      The way I see it, the longer this war goes on, the weaker Russia gets. Sure it's costing the US (and other countries) a lot of money and resources [and costing Ukrainians their lives and homes] but we are essentially weakining a not-so-friendly country of ours without having to send our own troops to fight it.

      (thank you @RandallFlagg@lemm.ee for the illustrating example, my own added text in bold brackets)

      as if that message is not being heard by the people of Ukraine. I've been saying this since we've started sending weapons over there, there will be war hardened troops - some of them literal nazis - coming home from this war resentful of the people that continuously baited them into prolonging it while their own country was destroyed and looted. Thank god we're keeping a sharp eye on all of those weapons shipments to make sure they don't end up in the wrong hands. Oooops!