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  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Whether it is uncommon or not, demanding that people obtain the consent of a nonexistent entity in order to create life is at best ontologically confused and at worst deeply hostile

    • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      It's not ontologically confused. It's literally applying the same ethic we'd have for a sleeping person or a person in a coma but to the unborn and showing the absurdity of childbirth and how, at best, morally fraught it is.

      • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        Person isn't available to consent to thing -> people usually don't do thing in their stead

        The situations where this is contradicted are only because there's a prior being extant whose interest is usually avoiding death because they find dying undesirable, whereas the unborn aren't afraid of continuing to be unborn and thus aren't harmed by inaction like a comatose person who might wake up some day might be.

        • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]
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          2 months ago

          Will not be reading the same stupid responses to this post I get every time.

          So, instead, I will pre-emptively dip out and tell everyone to watch The Boy & The Heron. I just watched it today and it was amazing. Probably the last Ghibli film we'll get and an even better send off to Miyazaki's filmography/artstyle than The Wind Rises was.

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        2 months ago

        A sleeping person exists, pretty big difference you're eliding. You're literally conflating being and nonbeing, which is, ontologically, just a wee bit confused. Anti-natalists never beating the allegations