Trotskyists have an actual position that isn't class essentialist challenge (impossible)

Trots try to be on the right side of liberation struggle challenges (hard)

Trots trying not to become neo-cons challenge (extremely hard)

Trots trying not to lie about lenin's history of stalin challenge (impossible)

Trots having a position that isn't just 'the opposite of what stalin did' challenge (literally impossible)

no imma trot bash here, they're consistently shit in their ideology and even on Palestine most just bemoan how 'both sides bad'. 'Leninists' my ass.

i don't even like stalin that much but jesus christ its all they think about

  • gueybana [any]
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    2 months ago

    Feel like they’re just annoying tbh to the point they’re endearing.

    Real trots are harmless, just walk over them stuff them in a locker lmao Libs masquerading as trots otoh…

    Leon Trotsky? Annoying as fuck, yes. Unwitting saboteur, yes. A bonafide Communist hero of the Russian revolution and a great man, i’ll argue yes.

      • gueybana [any]
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        2 months ago

        Why, do they say some wild kulak shit?

        • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          they think peasants are inherently reactionary, and take a 'only the working class can make a revolution' class essentialist route. For example, many of them disclaim the Chinese revolution as corrupted by peasant reaction and thus a 'd word workers state' because national liberation struggles are of little importance to them.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      I mean idk what counts as a "real Trot" but SWP (USA) has foreign policy positions indistinguishable from the state dept due to the contrarianism.

      They sent reporters to the Ukraine to do pro-Maidan coverage ten years ago.

      They're also a cult who tried to get a younger family member of mine (who grew up impoverished in the projects) to drop out of university and salt grocery stores and tried to get a friend of mine who was recovering from a major life threatening surgery to go to an event that was like an 8 hour car ride away. They were extremely aggressive about that second one also.

      I will always hate the SWP. Fuck their shitty newspaper "The Militant" too. Ukronazi boosting sectarian shitheads.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Unwitting saboteur, yes. A bonafide Communist hero of the Russian revolution and a great man, i’ll argue yes

      Unwitting?!?! He lead an opposition bloc that caused tremendous problems for the USSR and, though he got turned down, he enthusiastically tried to collaborate with the fucking HUAC just to have a platform to attack "Stalinism"

      He wasn't great, he was a petty, petty man whose significance is wildly overblown by the tragicomic hagiographies by Orwell and the rest of the compatible left.