No one can read that. Just post a clear and concise thing in text that explains your problem and what specific things you suggest need to be done in order to solve it. I've been reading threads on this for like 20 minutes now trying to understand and I still have no clue what it's supposed to be about. As far as I can tell a lot of your earlier complaints are being addressed already.
Whatever smoking gun is contained within this indecipherable Rosetta stone of discord can surely be condensed into something people can actually understand if it's anything worth caring about.
when it's condensed it gets accused of being taken out of context.
Fair enough, I guess I should sit this one out, hope you get this all sorted out.
Please. I beg you. Go outside. Log off for one evening. Breathe fresh air. Just step away from your computer for a short while. This isn’t worth whatever time you guys spent on this and the junior level callout post you cited as concrete proof of transfetishism and -phobia last week.
trans people point out transmisogyny.
"It would actually be better if you guys just left"
fine.
I'm speaking for the ones that were banned and feel alienated and I have their blessing.
Banned for shitting up the site with spam and trying to create a pedo narrative for someone who isn't even a mod or admin?
You on this singular account? Sure. But why would new accounts be spamming the drama? Doesn't take 2 braincells to connect the dots.
what dots? that other people are spamming stuff independently of myself?
User tries to spam pedo narrative Gets shot down Site gets spammed with said pedo narrative
Is that clear?
It's nice how easy it is to dismiss anyone that raises concerns over moderation as a member of the "Zara clique". Did you stop to consider that maybe the significant amount of people that were targeted in these banwaves might have valid cause to feel uncomfortable and aren't just toxic shitstarters trying to wreck the community?
a longass struggle session over the ability to dox mods for their choice in actions
Blatant misrepresentation of what happened. Doxxing requires revealing personally identifiable information, which not a single fucking person attempted. Having a public modlog (with moderator usernames) is incredibly common in online communities and has nothing to do with doxxing. I find it hard to believe the moderation team is working in good faith while continuing to misuse "doxxing" as a justification for banwaves.
And the people involved spent weeks posting nonsensical complaints at mods and most all had posts about unbanning zara in their history.
Not everyone that was banned had anything to do with zara, and even if they did post about them in the past, that's not a justification to purge them from the server.
Also, it's really questionable to call a group of comrades bringing attention to suspect moderation "reactionary astroturfing". Just as questionable as calling the people that were banned Zara cultists, chuds, nazbols, etc. Poor behavior all around.
Clearly more than 10 people got banned. And nobody doxxed a mod.
I get that the one person asking for names is extra, but that's a big stretch to make to the whole gang trying to dox mods and you know that.
honestly im gonna apologize for how harsh ive been coming across. i'm frustrated with certain users involved in all this and the pointless attacks going on but i only know what i've looked into myself and i dont know everything.
That's a really rough thing to say about 100+ trans comrades.
I said this to you in the other thread. You can not claim to speak for 100+ people as a small group of 10 or so. It's honestly offensive. You and your small group has a problem, nobody else.
Sure looks like the same 10 users attacking the site over and over and over again though.
I've seen the logs and I've been on a lot since the launch day. It's very obvious that it's the same 10 or so people that have been repeatedly making the same accounts over and over again to attack the site. You know this and anyone that has been here the last 5 days in new or looking into the modlog also knows it. Claiming otherwise just demonstrates to me and everyone else reading how exceptionally bad faith a lot of the things you're saying are.
I agree that the fuck zara post looks bad, but in the context of it being the general community's reaction to the attacking that was ongoing I think it makes sense why it was made and so heavily upvoted. Zara in particular wasn't the sole person responsible for that, but was the recognisable name given to the general community's response to the group-attack.
I saw Zara in a dozen different discords trying to tell people all kinds of nonsense. Over on one of the ML discords they were claiming that the whole site was anti-ML which was met with resoundingly sceptical response. They were just going around anyone and everyone they could telling whatever narrative they could in a desire to cause harm to the site. It was obvious, and everyone reacted to it with extreme scepticism.
People are continuing to react to this with extreme scepticism (as I am) because people don't see it as a separated thing from all those attacks. It feels very much like a continuation of it but with a different approach.
Do you have something you actually want? Anything that's actually actionable for the admins? Or is the intention to just continue making posts complaining but at a less spammy pace so that they don't get removed?
I'm completely against mod elections until the site is well in excess of 100k users, probably more. It just invites any big fish out there to come in and destroy everything.
I don't see how names in the modlog would change much? Surely the issue is not who performs an action but what? That seems more like something that would be used by people aiming to create a narrative around 1 single person they want to attack that would take inordinate amounts of time/effort to debunk by showing off how it relates to other moderators.
I don't care about the discord. I didn't use it and I don't see why anyone cares about it. It's a terrible platform that creates drama because it focuses communities around whoever the most-online are, and the most-online crosses over quite unfortunately with people who are more likely to have a variety of mental health problems. I'm saying this with experience, I run a discord with 4k users for 4 years and it's a nightmare how the same drama happens over and over again. It's not because of people, it is the platform itself that causes the same shit over and over in every large community.
I know fully about them. Zara made sure we all knew fully about them lmao
What I don't understand is the actionable stuff you mentioned above. It's not very meaningful.
Ok, seriously, that's enough. regardless of how you feel about it they have the right to air their grievances without being demonized for it.
The problem is you don’t use the discord so explaining issues with the current discord and mod shenanigans can’t really help since you don’t have the context of the system
Doesn't this lend weight to the fact discord is a shit platform?
If you can't explain the problem to anyone that doesn't have direct involvement within the discord then discord is a seriously shit platform and there is something emotional and closely linked to the platform involved in these drama outbursts that always occur on discord itself.
There is a specific problem with the platform that inflates and creates these issues.
"You wouldn't understand unless you were there" makes it impossible to have any conversation about the issue.
So stop using discord and use lemmy? Discord sucks. Why are we talking about the discord on lemmy?
I can't speak for the other mods but I mod c/anime and I can tell you for sure that I went through 2 interviews, visits to all the communities I run, multiple questionnaires and had to show I have a boatload of experience before I got the comm. I don't know about the others though of course and I have no powers outside of my comm, but with my anecdotal experience I have to say that vetting is absolutely there.
I mean the problem is the mods from the discord are the mods on the lemmy
Ok so this comment actually takes a step in the direction of the real actionable thing that want. You want mods removed. I understand that now.
Which ones?
Yeah both of those things were very checked for me at least I can say for sure. That and my position on loli content and age of consent.
if you're talking about gulag it's way more than 10.
if your talking about shork it's puts the count to 100+
dead as if you even look at the post i didn't bother to censor the side bar. there's literally 20+ online in gulag alone.
Your numbers keep changing around lmao. In the last thread you were claiming it was 100+ from the chapo discord, and after that got shot down you've moved onto claiming your numbers from somewhere else entirely.
This whole thing makes you look hilariously bad faith. Every single comment just digs a hole even larger.
k well just look through the 3 day chat log and not my editorial of it then.
I'm speaking for the shorks mainly, which includes people that weren't banned but still feel uncomfortable with decisions being made. Are we not entitled to have a voice?
Basically a space the trans comrades had to make for themselves because they didn't feel comfortable in the main discord. They don't mind me speaking for them in the capacity I have.
I'd appreciate if comments were made about the contents of the conversation log and not trying to character assassinate the people that provided it.
if you can find a way to download the images individually that might help.
Good lord that's rough. I'm thinking maybe i can put do individual links. Hang tight there's a lot
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are you on moblie? if so finding some way to get them on desktop might work out better. if not jeez.
you might be clicking on a thumbnail instead of the imgur link maybe?
"guys aren't allowed to be feminine & gnc people do not exist." this is ridiculous
it's more that i'm uncomfortable with children being in the same porn scenario, even just as watchers. but go off i guess
some of those chibis look a lot younger than the other characters, the age discrepancy makes me uncomfortable as a surviver of csa.
"It's chibi, actually." - really?
They're visibly young and the juxtaposition between them and the other two characters that are clearly drawn as adults brings a dynamic to mind and it's creepy as hell.
i read through a bit. im a trans woman thats anarchist adjacent. why not just remove ecosoco and the pedophile and hand over a lot of stuff to the old chapo mods? dont really have a pony to race here cause i despise discord
Congratulations! Now the top post is the cis person that cant comprehend why pronouns are so important. Glad yall wanted to silence a trans voice for that!
Downvote me more! I'm still the top post because noone posts here, because yall don't care about the concerns I've been raising.
