cycle [none/use name]

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    I know that for me and many other people, there was no reason or appeal instructions provided at the time of the ban. I had to run around attempting to contact several mods/admins (many of which ignored DMs or had them disabled) just to understand why I was banned in the first place and how to file an appeal.

    The appeal process itself is also something that should be under reconsideration if democratization is a goal for this site. Sending an appeal form into the void with the hopes that one of the moderators that may have taken action against you would be able to impartially review the merit of your appeal is... not an ideal system.


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    Actually responding instead of instinctively downvoting, thanks.

    I don't agree that what you described justifies a permanent ban. Many other communities use a punishment tier system, with cooldowns, that permit a reasonable level of moderation action per user.

    The rules were strict on discord, sure, but they're relatively strict here as well (compared to the old subreddit). They've said they're planning to loosen the rules over time, but at the moment the same issues with users discussing in good faith being unnecessarily targeted is still relevant.


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    The admins and moderators running the discord server are the same ones running this lemmy instance (with a few exceptions). Assuming you were interacting in good faith on discord, what makes you believe you won't encounter similar problems here with moderation?

    Multiple downvotes within seconds of commenting. Good faith discussion, for sure.


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    If you continually suggest that the discord server that was advertised by the mods just before the ban and managed to capture 10k active users from the subreddit has no relevance to the subreddit now, just weeks later, then yes, I will say you are being intentionally obtuse.


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    At this point you're being intentionally obtuse. No one is suggesting that this becomes "DiscordOnLemmy", but the events that took place in the few weeks of transition are clearly relevant to the community now.


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    warn and then ban attempts to litigate drama

    This is part of the conflict and clearly relevant to both platforms.

    We apparently have different definitions of the word community. The Discords fosters a very distinct culture and userbase compared with the subreddit, so I don’t consider them unified at all. A person might belong to both communities, but that doesn’t mean they are the same community.

    You're being pedantic at this point. The small subset of the community that had a long-term interest in the discord platform isn't of relevance here. I'm referring to the general r/CTH community, from which 10k managed to join the server in the days following the subreddit ban. Seeing as this is a significant portion of the subreddit's active userbase, the conflicts that occurred there in the weeks after the ban are completely relevant here.


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    This is the new subreddit, it needs to be moderated like a subreddit.

    I'm discussing the style and manner of moderation, not anything specific to the platform.

    No it’s not. I don’t know like 90% of the people here. I’m from the subreddit. Not the discord. So trying to pretend this is an extension of the discord and re-litigating grievances from there is a category error.

    Where do you think the discord users came from? We're literally all from the same community. There is no "extension of the discord". Some of us stayed in the discord during the transition, but it is the same community. The grievances that occurred there are relevant to the entire community and it's rather disrespectful to the people that were harmed there to say it has no place here and is just cheap discord drama.


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    If users have not behaved peacefully in this very same community, albeit on a different platform, then past conflicts are ABSOLUTELY your problem as a moderator. On one hand you're saying you want people to feel safe and on the other you're stating that even if a user has previously made members of your community feel unsafe, as long as they behave peacefully from this moment on you have no problem allowing them to participate in your community.


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    The subreddit was moderated in a far different manner than the discord (irrespective of platform limitations), I don't think the comparison is apt.

    This isn't two feuding communities with "discord drama" spilling over into Lemmy. It's one community and legitimate grievances are reflected on both platforms. Simple as that.


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    I don't see how classifying what's occurred recently as "drama" pertinent only to the Discord platform is productive to the conversation here. The factors that lead to this "drama" are inherent to both communities.

    A "blank slate" policy in this context meant leniency towards people that had been targeted in recent banwaves on Discord, not a full dismissal of any conflict that had occurred on the platform.