Interesting that the strawpolls at the meetings hours one way while the phone survey goes another. Seems like there's a correlation between how active the members are and their likelihood to vote Republican
Maybe I'm too woke but I'm pretty sure it's because Harris is black, Indian, and a women that the results flipped so hard
Union members aren't all far left on average or anything. Cops have and support their unions
Joining a union directly and clearly improves their own situation. Can the said be said for having a black, indian women be president for the white and/or male union members?
Are you confident there is a complete insignificant number of teamster members that have no racial biases at all? And that they all believe women as just as capable leaders?
Are you confident there is a complete insignificant number of teamster members that have no racial biases at all? And that they all believe women as just as capable leaders?
I strongly suspect that a very high percentage of the members that would flip when their candidate turns out to be a woman and/or minority were already solidly in the Trump camp even when Biden was running. I really do not believe that 40% of the teamsters currently in favor of Trump preferred another option before the democratic candidate was changed to a minority woman.
Not identical, but I don't think I've encountered anyone IRL who thinks more highly of Biden than of Obama without loathing Biden.
I'm not saying that being an active union member makes you totally leftist, but it's clear from these polls that the mood of the halls is different from the mood of the general membership in some measurable way.
Like where I'm at, the Teamsters and IBEW share their halls with DSA, PSL, and SRA. The average member of those unions is pretty centrist, but the leadership and active membership is very leftist.
That's fair, I was just ignoring the candidates and instead looking at it as Red/Blue/Neutral thinking the method of the poll was getting a different subset of the membership and not thinking that the actual candidates were effecting anything.
Interesting that the strawpolls at the meetings hours one way while the phone survey goes another. Seems like there's a correlation between how active the members are and their likelihood to vote Republican
Maybe I'm too woke but I'm pretty sure it's because Harris is black, Indian, and a women that the results flipped so hard
Union members aren't all far left on average or anything. Cops have and support their unions
Joining a union directly and clearly improves their own situation. Can the said be said for having a black, indian women be president for the white and/or male union members?
Are you confident there is a complete insignificant number of teamster members that have no racial biases at all? And that they all believe women as just as capable leaders?
I strongly suspect that a very high percentage of the members that would flip when their candidate turns out to be a woman and/or minority were already solidly in the Trump camp even when Biden was running. I really do not believe that 40% of the teamsters currently in favor of Trump preferred another option before the democratic candidate was changed to a minority woman.
Not identical, but I don't think I've encountered anyone IRL who thinks more highly of Biden than of Obama without loathing Biden.
Fair enough, but the perception of black women is a far fall down from black men in America tbh
I'm not saying that being an active union member makes you totally leftist, but it's clear from these polls that the mood of the halls is different from the mood of the general membership in some measurable way.
Like where I'm at, the Teamsters and IBEW share their halls with DSA, PSL, and SRA. The average member of those unions is pretty centrist, but the leadership and active membership is very leftist.
These polls don't say anything about the mood because the candidates to vote for are different
That's fair, I was just ignoring the candidates and instead looking at it as Red/Blue/Neutral thinking the method of the poll was getting a different subset of the membership and not thinking that the actual candidates were effecting anything.