I don't understand why there are so many people who consider themselves "Marxist feminists", but at the same time are distracted by astrology.

The origin of feminism is working class, and as a working class movement, it is materialist. I don't know if they at least know what dialectical materialism is, since they don't see such an abysmal contradiction between astrology (pseudoscience) and feminism (materialism).

They remind me of the liberal “feminist” Gloria Steinem.

And the same with some anarchists.

What do you think about it?

  • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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    5 hours ago

    Realistically speaking, who fucking cares?

    A whole lot of people spilling ink about astrology, "pseudoscience" and "mysticism" in here that don't seem to know anything about it or its relation to the patriarchal, racial and class contradictions. And a whole lot of people that don't seem directly concerned with most of those things themselves but feel it's important to share their opinions on something they're not informed about and not concerned about.

    For the record i don't care for astrology at all, I don't like the (extremely, extremely rare) people who take it 100% seriously, but it's still one of those things that's kinda fun sometimes. But i don't care, and i have no trust in people who are worried about "feminists hurting their own movement by doing things wrong" when they're not a part of that movement.

    • jolliver_bromwell [she/her]
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      4 hours ago

      thanks for posting this out more coherently than I could. I’m no astrologer but the weird ass struggle sessions we have about it tri annually are really fucking dumb and pointless and I’ll point out that we have more than a little catholic apologia on this site pretty consistently and it shouldn’t be controversial to say astrology has done much less material harm to women and leftists generally than the fucking pedo cabal that did literal crusades and genocides and witch burnings

    • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      Could you elaborate on the link between pseudoscience, mysticism, and patriarchal/racial relations and class contradictions?

    • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      Could you elaborate on the link between pseudoscience, mysticism, and patriarchal/racial relations and class contradictions?