Please don't fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don't do it in business and first class!
People in business class or first class are almost never rich. Sky mile programs, travel credit card point programs, gaming point relationships between airlines and affiliates can make business and first quite affordable. And for when it can't be affordable, if someone is paying for it, it's not usually for luxury. I try to always send my wife at least business class so she is treated MUCH more as a human being than she normally has been in coach, as she is a minority and disabled. Rich people charter planes or own them. Those in business class are usually people who just plan ahead better than you. And if you're jealous of that, then you're a jealous piece of something.
People in business class or first class are almost never rich. Sky mile programs, travel credit card point programs, gaming point relationships between airlines and affiliates can make business and first quite affordable.
person who flies so much they are able to game point relationships between airlines and affiliates: actually I am living in poverty and not what you'd call rich. 🤡 🤡 🤡
Here are some reasons for business class and first class:
Certainly treated better by staff when flights are delayed or cancelled - They took excellent care of my wife and her food and lodging needs when her flight was disrupted by a volcanic eruption at her intended destination.
The airline lounge - food, drinks and comfortable places to wait while stuck at airports
More and heavier checked bag allowance - Super important if bringing things to family
Laying down on long international flights to sleep
Most importantly, if you are a person of colour or disabled, the staff treat you a hell of a lot better - Shouldn't have to pay more to be treated like a human being, but on a lot of airlines, you do
So it's not a waste, especially when my wife is flying alone 7600km, 10,500km, and even 11,700km as both a person of colour and a disabled person to deal with family tragedies. For you to want to screw with people for that... Yeah, don't care for you.
I don't. Paycheck to paycheck. Learn to use the tools of airline mile programs, credit cards with points, and airline mileage affiliate programs. Use your brain, not your money.
K I did all that and decided with my brain I'm gonna bring my kid too and I don't give a shit if the rich assholes in first class complain even if they insist they're "paycheck to paycheck" after airing a list of grievances about how they hate having to interact with plebs on an airplane.
I mean seriously you said in another post rich people own planes. If everybody who doesnt own a plane isn't rich I'm gonna go ahead and say you're completely out of touch.
I said charter or own. Wealthy people often charter. Who said anything about interacting with plebs? This thread is about mother freaking babies on this mother freaking plane! :) Now, if you think the definition of plebeian is just someone who has a crotch goblin traveling with them, that's a totally different problem for another post. Your assumption first class is only for the rich is in error. It might be someone with some savings, but very likely not rich. What is your definition of rich?
Now, as to you being angry and just wanting to use your child to piss off other people, keep that doing that. See how that goes for ya. While rare, parents have gotten themselves banned from airlines for being terrible people. Let's see if you fit that bill.
There's plenty of people who have to do all of that and don't have crazy amounts of money to blast on a plane ticket. My heart is not bleeding. And all this over someone bringing a child on a plane.
Children are usually fine. Let me be more specific. Babies. Babies are often a problem on flights. Often it's because of the cabin pressure hurting their ears because of their under developed eustachian tubes. All babies? no. But a lot of them. Learn how to help manage the child's ear pain if you must bring them. Otherwise, you're just being mean to your baby.
As for your plenty of people / heart not bleeding comment. Nice to meet you, Karen.
Yes, PSA bring teething toys and gum if your child is old enough to help equalize their ear pressure that's fine, but kids are people too and they have a right to travel with their parents. The flying experience is aggressively uncomfortable and kids complaining isn't even the half of it.
No. Just don't go. You chose to raise a child, part of that includes not dragging them where they don't belong until they are old grown enough to behave. If you have to go, arrange care for the child while you are gone if they aren't mature enough yet. Bringing a baby on a plane says, "I refuse to pay money to take responsibility for my choosing to have a child, so I'll bring it with me and put that burden on everyone trapped with me on a plane." Gee thanks.
Your parents not letting you go outside is why you grew up into a redditor manchild who whines about literal babies. Your presence is 1000% more irritating than any baby. I'd tell you to stay at home but you never leave the basement anyways.
Please don't fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don't do it in business and first class!
Rich people deserve to suffer. Always fly first class with your kids and give them caffeine pills before the flight.
Based and energy pilled.
People in business class or first class are almost never rich. Sky mile programs, travel credit card point programs, gaming point relationships between airlines and affiliates can make business and first quite affordable. And for when it can't be affordable, if someone is paying for it, it's not usually for luxury. I try to always send my wife at least business class so she is treated MUCH more as a human being than she normally has been in coach, as she is a minority and disabled. Rich people charter planes or own them. Those in business class are usually people who just plan ahead better than you. And if you're jealous of that, then you're a jealous piece of something.
person who flies so much they are able to game point relationships between airlines and affiliates: actually I am living in poverty and not what you'd call rich. 🤡 🤡 🤡
??????????
Lol. If you're wasting those sums of money to fly, I hope you do get noisy kids right next to you.
Here are some reasons for business class and first class:
So it's not a waste, especially when my wife is flying alone 7600km, 10,500km, and even 11,700km as both a person of colour and a disabled person to deal with family tragedies. For you to want to screw with people for that... Yeah, don't care for you.
Thanks for explaining to everybody why you deserve to be treated better than everyone else because you have more money.
I don't. Paycheck to paycheck. Learn to use the tools of airline mile programs, credit cards with points, and airline mileage affiliate programs. Use your brain, not your money.
K I did all that and decided with my brain I'm gonna bring my kid too and I don't give a shit if the rich assholes in first class complain even if they insist they're "paycheck to paycheck" after airing a list of grievances about how they hate having to interact with plebs on an airplane.
I mean seriously you said in another post rich people own planes. If everybody who doesnt own a plane isn't rich I'm gonna go ahead and say you're completely out of touch.
I said charter or own. Wealthy people often charter. Who said anything about interacting with plebs? This thread is about mother freaking babies on this mother freaking plane! :) Now, if you think the definition of plebeian is just someone who has a crotch goblin traveling with them, that's a totally different problem for another post. Your assumption first class is only for the rich is in error. It might be someone with some savings, but very likely not rich. What is your definition of rich?
Now, as to you being angry and just wanting to use your child to piss off other people, keep that doing that. See how that goes for ya. While rare, parents have gotten themselves banned from airlines for being terrible people. Let's see if you fit that bill.
Really putting the pseudo in pseudospock, there lol
What, did you think I was the real McCoy? ;)
There's plenty of people who have to do all of that and don't have crazy amounts of money to blast on a plane ticket. My heart is not bleeding. And all this over someone bringing a child on a plane.
Children are usually fine. Let me be more specific. Babies. Babies are often a problem on flights. Often it's because of the cabin pressure hurting their ears because of their under developed eustachian tubes. All babies? no. But a lot of them. Learn how to help manage the child's ear pain if you must bring them. Otherwise, you're just being mean to your baby.
As for your plenty of people / heart not bleeding comment. Nice to meet you, Karen.
What should people do exactly? FedEx their kids?
Yes, PSA bring teething toys and gum if your child is old enough to help equalize their ear pressure that's fine, but kids are people too and they have a right to travel with their parents. The flying experience is aggressively uncomfortable and kids complaining isn't even the half of it.
No. Just don't go. You chose to raise a child, part of that includes not dragging them where they don't belong until they are old grown enough to behave. If you have to go, arrange care for the child while you are gone if they aren't mature enough yet. Bringing a baby on a plane says, "I refuse to pay money to take responsibility for my choosing to have a child, so I'll bring it with me and put that burden on everyone trapped with me on a plane." Gee thanks.
Could you just not go instead?
Funny.
Please don't leave your house, and if you do, please for the love that might be holy don't do it in areas actually inhabited by people.
Please tell that to parents who can't keep their kids polite in public. Being a child is not an excuse to be a monster.
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That’s why you keep them at home.
Your parents not letting you go outside is why you grew up into a redditor manchild who whines about literal babies. Your presence is 1000% more irritating than any baby. I'd tell you to stay at home but you never leave the basement anyways.
If you have to fly business with the rest of the poors that can't afford a private jet, you don't get to complain.