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there are no other browsers. there are forks of firefox yeah but they ultimately rely on upstream code and if this causes people to flee from firefox mozilla will collapse*. there's a couple of independent browsers that are progressing but they are still in very early stages of development and I'm sure it will be many years before either of them is ready for mainstream use
edit: *if google is forced to stop paying them as part of the anti-trust lawsuit
I really do hope ladybird can do something substantial, but even the most optimistic outcome is maybe half a decade away. I really do hope the techno wizards of the net do something about meaningful alternative browsers and do it soon
yep, we're down to two whole browser engines. they've made the web so mind-bogglingly complex, it's prohibitively expensive to write and maintain one.
i dont think there's corporate profit in it either, not with google owning the space. so basically, we're only going to get a better browser if china builds it :D
maybe we'll get lucky and mozilla devs will feel a sense of camraderie and will start heavily contributing to the independent engines but I think that is very unlikely though lol
According to Natopedia, Opera Browser is Chinese owned now.
"As of the end of 2023, Opera Software was 72.4% owned by Kunlun, a Chinese public company, making it a subsidiary of that company. Opera CEO James Yahui Zhou is a controlling shareholder in Kunlun."
~ Opera (web browser) - Wikipedia
It is. I was (mistakenly) referring to the question of Chinese browsers and saw the R*ddit peanut gallery about Opera being owned by the "SeeSeePee" and looked it up.
i dont think so i assume at best they maintain their own forks of firefox or chrome. I'm certainly not an expert on their tech though so i suppose it's always possible they do
there are no other browsers. there are forks of firefox yeah but they ultimately rely on upstream code and if this causes people to flee from firefox mozilla will collapse*. there's a couple of independent browsers that are progressing but they are still in very early stages of development and I'm sure it will be many years before either of them is ready for mainstream use
edit: *if google is forced to stop paying them as part of the anti-trust lawsuit
I guess we've got to hope that the LadyBird project succeeds and we get a usable browser sometime before 2030 https://ladybird.org/
I really do hope ladybird can do something substantial, but even the most optimistic outcome is maybe half a decade away. I really do hope the techno wizards of the net do something about meaningful alternative browsers and do it soon
yep, we're down to two whole browser engines. they've made the web so mind-bogglingly complex, it's prohibitively expensive to write and maintain one.
i dont think there's corporate profit in it either, not with google owning the space. so basically, we're only going to get a better browser if china builds it :D
maybe we'll get lucky and mozilla devs will feel a sense of camraderie and will start heavily contributing to the independent engines but I think that is very unlikely though lol
eh...
Does China maintain one?
According to Natopedia, Opera Browser is Chinese owned now.
I think it's Chromium based, just like the Russian Yandex Browser
It is. I was (mistakenly) referring to the question of Chinese browsers and saw the R*ddit peanut gallery
about Opera being owned by the "SeeSeePee" and looked it up.
No(?) but I had a quick search and they have a chromium based browser called Twinkstar, so there's that.
@xiaohongshu@hexbear.net you might know is there an indigenous browser engine in china?
sorry, theyre all chrome forks
yeah that's what i figured lmao
i dont think so i assume at best they maintain their own forks of firefox or chrome. I'm certainly not an expert on their tech though so i suppose it's always possible they do
yeah.. I assume this is them signaling their plans for if they lose that google default search engine money (which is likely I guess?)
This is so depressing..