It's shocking to me that there hasn't been an Israel/Judea Civ in 6 iterations of the game. And yet, with everything going on in that corner of the world now, most of my hope for an Israel Civ in Civ 7 is mostly gone. It rather stupid, I think, because there is no other logical choice for a representation of Jewish culture (while there are many for Christianity and Islam). Those of us who want a Israel Civ do not necessarily support the modern Israeli government; but tend to be very interested in ancient Israel. Yet, I can only imagine the outcry if Firaxis added it now.
On a different note: I think Ukraine and Tibet are completely different situations. A Ukraine Civ would be absolutely awesome, and I'd love to see Firaxis snub Russia by doing this. Give them Volodymyr the Great as a leader.
As for Tibet, (also the case with Taiwan, Manchuria, and East Turkestan) there is no real controversy, except for one solely manufactured by the Chinese government. Firaxis, like most capitalist businesses, would rather get money than stand on morals.
It's worth noting that many Americans would welcome more Native American Civs or even civs based on states; but compare this to the Chinese government's reaction.
Just in case someone gets offended by my take: I have no issue with Russian, Chinese, Palestinian, or Israeli people. Their governments on the other hand? I do. Big time.
As for Tibet, (also the case with Taiwan, Manchuria, and East Turkestan)
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Tibet actually has a history of being a sovereign nation centuries ago, so for a civilization in the game you could base it off of that I guess. That's not the case for the other three. Like you could do the Manchus but they literally became China. It would just be weird.
civ 5 had polynesia, so they could have a Taiwan city i guess. maybe the maori in civ 6 could be changed to be pan-pacific islander and they could also have a taiwan?
oh he meant 17th-19th century taiwan under dutch, ming and qing settlement? those civs already exist, they can settle an island
oh he meant taiwan under japanese occupation? that civ already exists, that's a warmonger penalty
oh he meant 20th century taiwan post civil-war under mainland GMD occupation? that's... idk
oh he meant 21st century taiwan under gmd/democrat leadership and flirting with independence? that's oddly specific. gonna need a Lao civ, a Sri Lanka civ, a Burkina Faso civ etc before that.
To be fair to "East Turkistan" you could totally add a Uighur/Tarim Basin/Sogdian civilization centered around trade that would be awesome. Tibet would also make a great civ, had many wars with China for control over the Tarim basin, specifically during the Tang.
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These fascist ghouls just love to bring this shit up at every opportunity. Also, Manchuria? What the fuck?
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Tibet actually has a history of being a sovereign nation centuries ago, so for a civilization in the game you could base it off of that I guess. That's not the case for the other three. Like you could do the Manchus but they literally became China. It would just be weird.
civ 5 had polynesia, so they could have a Taiwan city i guess. maybe the maori in civ 6 could be changed to be pan-pacific islander and they could also have a taiwan?
oh he meant 17th-19th century taiwan under dutch, ming and qing settlement? those civs already exist, they can settle an island
oh he meant taiwan under japanese occupation? that civ already exists, that's a warmonger penalty
oh he meant 20th century taiwan post civil-war under mainland GMD occupation? that's... idk
oh he meant 21st century taiwan under gmd/democrat leadership and flirting with independence? that's oddly specific. gonna need a Lao civ, a Sri Lanka civ, a Burkina Faso civ etc before that.
To be fair to "East Turkistan" you could totally add a Uighur/Tarim Basin/Sogdian civilization centered around trade that would be awesome. Tibet would also make a great civ, had many wars with China for control over the Tarim basin, specifically during the Tang.
That could be funny in that you could roleplay Balkanizing Amerikkka.