• Jabril [none/use name]
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    4 hours ago

    I disagree. I'm not online in spaces to deal with keyboard commando anarchists, all my experience is from anarchists on the ground involved with organizing in my community. They will dox a tankie before they do anything to actually challenge capitalism and no exposure to differing perspectives is going to change their minds. They are, like soc dems, volunteer sheep dogs of liberalism who exist to lead newly developing leftists away from Marxism. Anarchists will often suppress materialist thought in organizing spaces and police these spaces in a way to divert energy into useless BS until the momentum dies down and nothing happens. I know quite a few anarchists who became Marxists and the common denominator is that they didn't identity as anarchists for more than a year or two before the reality of organizing in anarchist spaces made it obvious that they needed to look further for answers. Anyone who is an anarchist after their baby leftist phase is basically a volunteer cop in my eyes. I used to be more big tent about it but I have seen anarchists wreck a dozen different organizing arenas in my community, almost all of which were white people fucking up a movement that had the biggest impact on colonized communities. I have seen white anarchists enable fascists and cops, try to dox Muslim organizers, push out Black organizers and more. I have a lot of criticisms of Marxists too but I've never seen them do the type of stuff that I've seen anarchists do to comrades and movements.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      1 hour ago

      They will dox a tankie before they do anything to actually challenge capitalism and no exposure to differing perspectives is going to change their minds.

      Maybe we're just in different communities, but I've never seen anyone "dox" a fellow volunteer.

      If you're at an in-person meet up, I'm not sure what that's even supposed to look like.

      Anyone who is an anarchist after their baby leftist phase is basically a volunteer cop in my eyes. I used to be more big tent about it but I have seen anarchists wreck a dozen different organizing arenas in my community, almost all of which were white people fucking up a movement that had the biggest impact on colonized communities.

      That's a long history of organizing to see as many groups get wrecked. I've had a lot of hurdles with my neighborhood - people with free time, costs of supplies, building trust, staying organized as a group.

      Squabbles between communists and anarchists are the least part of it.