cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/1797629
Some communities there are literally calling for the annihilation of Ukraine
https://programming.dev/comment/1999097
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edit: Since people are either willfully or otherwose are missing my point, this is a pro-russia, pro-fascist hate group, therefore we shouldn't give them the platform to spread their shit. this is not about me seeing their community or then causing issues accross other communities, it's about de-platforming fascists.
The link for the original doesn't seem to work. I assume there's some missing context here. Still funny that they're calling hexbear pro-Russia and fascist. The comment isn't even by a hexbear. It's by one of ours.
I don't know what's worse in that thread, the person who thinks we're fascists because we support Russia, or the person who thinks Russia is moving back towards communism (socialism)
To be fair, those have been somewhat common liberal takes regarding the war.
They think any use of "authoritarianism" is inherently Fascist, so the USSR and its supporters are Fascists. And if Russia is, supposedly, returning to being an authoritarian regime and expanding its borders, it must be returning to the USSR.
it's such an uneducated take, and makes me furious at our schooling systems.
You'd think it was just western schooling, but nope. I've heard the whole "Putin is building USSR 2.0" from people in Russia. From adult people. Adult people who had actually lived in USSR. In a negative key. Yeah
I’ve heard the whole “Putin is building USSR 2.0” from people in Russia.
I would love to live in the world that libs think they inhabit.
TBF they could be referring to the fact that the Ukrainian conflict is slowly but actively weakening imperialism globally, which lays the groundwork for the USSR's return. They probably don't mean this when they say Putin's building USSR 2.0—why would they say Putin is doing it—but I like to be optimistic.
TBF they could be referring to the fact that the Ukrainian conflict is slowly but actively weakening imperialism globally, which lays the groundwork for the USSR’s return
I like your optimism. No. That's not even close to what is usually meant.
I think it would be funny if Russia, under Putin or someone else, just stumbled into USSR 2.0. That they get there not because they meant to, but because they started to adopt some of the practical things China's doing with development and the economy, and they one day find themselves back in the USSR.
It would certainly be a historic coinkydink.
I've even met people who appear to think Russia is communist right now, like they slept through the whole USSR collapse or something.
I missed this place, its good to be back! Trans Rights!
I’ve even met people who appear to think Russia is communist right now
Ukraine should not be destroyed, and should exist as a union republic within a union of soviet socialist republics.
Person proudly proclaiming that they prefer an all feed with exploding heads
I need to be careful which links I click, this one almost blew up my
Unreal emoji, this is the reason we need to be federated with hexbear
Petition to collectivise all hexbear emojis to lemmygrad @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
People have asked before and we don't mind adding some of their emojis on request, but they have so many that we'd just end up not using them because we'd have no idea what there were for or why they were added. It's ultimately better that we develop our own, although inevitably there will be some overlap of course.
Sure, some more obvious ones like the hitler particle detector or frothing fash could be easily added, our library is pretty bare tbh (and i have terrble emoji imagination, can't even think about it).
Yeah, that’s what I do and I’ve been here 3 years. I know maybe 3% of the emoji names and can use even fewer quickly lol
To be clear, I mean the government and their lackeys but not the people of Ukraine
So as I suspected, OP clipped you out of context. Libs are so sad.
You can see the comment right here: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1597460 The person above me refers to the military action and my reply was about the military action
idk feels like the same "government not the people" thing we decry libs for. I know you actually mean what you mean, but that kind of description isn't fitting to our goals and libs will jump to take it out of context.
I was joking when I used that terminology because of that but rather I just wanted to specify that I don’t want Ukrainian genocide. Quite frankly, I don’t think we should have to worry about being taken out of context inside of leftists spaces. No one within Hexbear or Lemmygrad expressed any issue with my comment on its own. Maybe it’s not the best thing to say but I was (and still am) angry about people defending Ukraine and Zelensky. You are right that I should be more specific about what I mean. I don’t think I was wrong in what I said on its own but I don’t want to cause Hexbear any problems
You aren't causing hexbears any problems, smooth brain libs are looking for a reason to cry to their admins. You got caught in the fire. If they don't defederate it will be some other fake contravorsey they'll come up with next week.
Though it is tough to know when someone is targeting people, or governments. I guess I always lean on longer posts myself. Just in case.
This was my take as well. If this was in one of the programming communities then I can see the need to ensure that we word our comments in a way in which they cannot be taken out of context. But this was on hexbear which is a safe space for us to talk without having to worry about that.
As a long time hexbear user, you're causing no issues. Our resident anarchist (as in one of the more active ones) just got us to defederate from blahaj because their 196 comm has a "Fuck Tankies" banner and they hopped in and dragged the mod there about it until the mod threw a temper tantrum and removed their comments.
What you said is pretty tame compared to usual posting there lol
Do chuds really think that we love liberal Russia that was built on top of the corpse of the Soviet Union? Built by the Chicago School and cooperative robber-barons?
We keep repeating that we hate Nazis and western imperialism, and this is something we have been collectively saying for close to a hundred years. They still don't get it.Like the old r/genzedong meme had it --
Lib says "I don't like post-Soviet Russia." Communist says: "Oh yeah? Then why the hell did you ask for it?"
classic liberal "It doesn't comprise the views provided to me by my preferred propaganda source, therefore it must be the opposite of what I see myself being, and is thus Fascism" take there.
And if they cared to read the thread, comrades explained positions and provided sources. They'd've seen that Ukraine is a Fascist state, and to defend it is ultimately a pro-Fascist stance.
edit:: I went and read the thread from the programing.dev post, and my god i haven't seen horseshoe theory that strong in a very long time. Seems like people over there think anyone who isn't them is a Fascist.
also inb4 a lemmy.ml or a lemm.ee user reports this post, because they think it's harassment.
So, those people over there are so dumb, they label anybody who disagrees with them a fascist. Also, Ukraine is fascist. Did I get that right?
I've seen the highest percentage of vitriol and barely controlled fascist rage coming from programming dot dev accounts so far
We need more !transprogrammer@lemmy.blahaj.zone posters to balance it out
And yet we both printed it and replied to it... Lenin would not approve.
If they start answering “How do I control an ESCPOS receipt printer through Javascript?” with “Nuke Kyiv”, then maybe do so [defederate].
New response just dropped.
There's a lot to be said in favour of federation, and the innate us-them mentality that comes with the federate-defederate border control is a thing. It looks and seems like a downside, but it's far and away better than the centralized lib authority we had in places like reddit.
Just sharing a thought that reading this thread prompted.
It's just sad that many of the instance owners (world, beehaw, shitjustworks) are just as reactionary as the capital owners at the head of Reddit.
"It's by one of ours."
Proud of us. Good job, guys. Keep up the good work. Alright, time for some pancakes. Hexbear is invited despite allegations of stolen posting valor.
