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    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      5 hours ago

      Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        2 hours ago

        Women live in the same declining capitalistic society as men, yet they are far more resistant to fascism. That's not to say there is something wrong with men or masculinity. Society puts different pressures on men and women so they react differently.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        3 hours ago

        No, it's not "men's" fault, but the people who's fault it is are primarily men. That's not an opinion, that's just history, not to mention what's happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?

      • TheDoctor [they/them]
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        5 hours ago

        This is insulting as fuck. I grew up as a boy with plenty of reactionary beliefs because patriarchy is a fucking prison. And as I got older and got called out for it, you know what I didn’t do? Become a fucking fascist. I wasn’t pushed towards fascism. I was already reactionary and fascism would have required less work of me. That’s not the same thing. And it lets people off the hook to suggest otherwise.

        • Tinidril@midwest.social
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          2 hours ago

          How is it insulting? I didn't say it was you. Fascism is a social phenomenon driven almost entirely by men. That doesn't mean all men are fascists, or that there is something wrong with masculinity. It's about certain men in certain situations reacting in what is an entirely predictable way. It is perhaps an insult to fascist men, but I'm comfortable insulting them.

        • Ok so ur smart enough not to be a fascist congratulations for achieving the bare minimum. Do u think most people are bright enough to go "ohhh yeah fascism is my fault because of the gender i was born i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions" or do they go "no fuck you and fuck everything you stand for"?

          • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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            3 hours ago

            ohhh yeah fascism is my fault

            I mean if the shoe fits

            because of the gender i was born

            it's this aggrieved "wah poor me for being born a man" shit that makes people disregard your bullshit in the first place. whatever happened to masculinity being defined by setting your jaw, gritting your teeth, and fixing your own fuckeries before they could adversely harm your surroundings?

            i shall apologise for my genders ancestors actions

            literally the bare fucking minimum a cracker could do and you phrase it like it's an impossible fucking pipe dream. and you wonder why people disregard and avoid bullshit peddlers like you.

            christ, our species is cooked if you're an example of the kind of man the future has to look forward to

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

        Such profound concern trolling wisdom from the wisest of all Star Wars characters! soypoint-1 live-slug-reaction soypoint-2

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