Q&A: NIAID’s Jeanne Marrazzo speaks on bird flu, mpox, and succeeding Anthony Fauci
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An interview with the director of the NIAID, Jeanne Marrazzo, on bird flu, mpox, the post-Fauci era and more.

Jeanne Marrazzo, new leader of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, everyone:

Can I make a quick digression? We recently had a long Covid [research] meeting where we had about 200 people, in person. And we can’t mandate mask-wearing, because it’s federal property. But there was a fair amount of disturbance that we couldn’t, and people weren’t wearing masks, and one person accused us of committing a microaggression by not wearing masks.

And I take that very seriously. But I thought to myself, it’s more that people just want to live a normal life. We really don’t want to go back. It was so painful. We’re still all traumatized. Let’s be honest about that. None of us are over it.

So there’s not a lot of appetite for raising an alarm, especially if it could be perceived subsequently as a false alarm.

Edit - thanks for the help in bypassing the paywall.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    So there’s not a lot of appetite for raising an alarm, especially if it could be perceived subsequently as a false alarm.

    honk-enraged That's the whole damn point in raising an alarm!

    clueless "The fire alarm going off allowed the residents to stop the fire with just a quick blast from a handheld extinguisher. But since there wasn't a lot of fire I guess we really don't need the fire alarms after all. I mean, they're so loud and annoying!"

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      2 months ago

      This made me recall an article I read very early in the pandemic. Just found it, and it's a real time capsule: "It’s hard to accept these sudden recommended changes to our routines, and the open-endedness is horrifying—or even worse, the prospect that this could be the new normal, at least until a vaccine is developed." Ahahahahahaha. But the relevant section:

      Susan Joslyn, a professor of psychology at the University of Washington, studies people’s responses to weather forecasting and finds that “false alarms” in major weather events, like tornado warnings or hurricane evacuations, result in a loss of trust. If you evacuate five times and nothing happens, you might believe the forecasts mean nothing; if you socially distance for two months and the virus never reaches your town, you might believe it was a false alarm, too, even if that social distancing is what kept the virus from taking hold. The same holds true with focusing on the worst-case scenario.

      But she goes on to talk about how officials know this, and know how to mitigate it. Well, at one time they did. Now they've given up on that along with any semblance of public health.