malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people's trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? kyle )

https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib

the comment in the screeshot is responding to @blakeus12@hexbear.net's wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051

I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512

  • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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    7 days ago

    i disagree somewhat, i think you can make a much more serious online community. I'm not a huge fan of the position that nothing online matters, it feels reactionary to me and inaccurate. not to say that online is literally as important as IRL, but i see too much dismissive attitudes towards. that being said hexbear was not and is not built to be a serious site, it's like a communist bar instead of an organization out to accomplish a goal and so yeah you really should not take it super seriously.

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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      7 days ago

      Participation in an online community is fundamentally less serious than an actual community, for one the stakes, in terms of community membership and exclusion and identify are much weaker.

      When this website started there were efforts to try to take it seriously in multiple ways. Things like admin accountability and due process for bans and all of that stuff were discussed to boredom (think user union). But all of that language and even that com have been discarded because none of that make sense to talk about for an online space that is at a fundamental level, privately owned by some person/people, and where the strongest sanction (banning) is so easily circumvented.

      • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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        7 days ago

        there is truth to this, but I also dont think these are unsolvable problems. In large part it's how this place that started out. it originated from a shitposting subreddit dedicated to a podcaster of shitposters, it would take a ton of work to turn it into a serious organization. did the people who actually paid for and ultimately controlled the server want any of this stuff? i dont know enough about the site's history. I also don't know how much risk in it for them, do any of the admins actually know each other's names and/or faces? I honestly don't even know what user union would be used for, the literal only threat i could see is if a group of people were designated as people who would make a splinter site if the union got together and voted that the admins had gone rogue, and I dont see why the admins would care unless they were actually paid to moderate and develop the site. same thing for admin accountability, i'm not sure what exactly the usefulness of that concept even is. and did they even have actual goals by trying to make hexbear more serious?

        • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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          7 days ago

          I'm not saying it should be serious, in fact I'm saying it should be treated with levity, because it can't be serious. The linked OP takes it too seriously, which is funny.