malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people's trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? kyle )

https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib

the comment in the screeshot is responding to @blakeus12@hexbear.net's wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051

I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    53 minutes ago

    This user's post is so wrong.

    1. First accusation is that it's more radical and mean than CTH was. I don't agree, CTH was fucking nuts at times. They're presenting it like it was a socdem space and this has gone way further left than it but you're talking about the subreddit that was banned for saying slavers should be killed and that spez is a slaver lmao. The sub practically went out of its way to be edgy and get banned. Moderation here is way tamer and less crazy.
    2. Second accusation is that the site "dwindled" from any users to few. This ain't true either, hexbear is more active now than it has been.
    3. There was never any divide over Russia-Ukraine. This user is literally making it up. There's definitely never been cheering over killing of civilians, you lying neoliberal fuckhead. Treating war like a football game? Projection.
    4. "I went to therapy and it saved me" lmao libs literally always resort to "go to therapy" for fucking everything. Biggest giveaway this is a neoliberal larping.
    5. "Now I look back on my several years as a hexbear user" you're absolutely full of shit mate.

    This is a neoliberal that's skimmed the place a few times. Nothing more.

    I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.

    Literally nobody in the left WANTS murder. We're just not naive enough to think that the transition of power will ever be allowed to be peaceful. We'd love that, frankly, but every time that's been tried it has resulted in millions of communists being murdered without any means to defend themselves. The means to defend ourselves are necessary and we expect violence to be necessary because the ruling class will not allow a peaceful transition. That's NOT being pleased with the idea of murder at all. It's just understanding that peaceful revolution is not really allowed for what we want.

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      57 minutes ago

      I dont think you're wrong but the idea that they used to be on hexbear for fucking years and didnt know there was a public modlog is so funny i need it to be true lmao

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        51 minutes ago

        Yeah kinda basic mistake right there. Especially with the frequent posts about modlog entries.

        I wonder if any of this is chatgpt... Are we in chatgpt's training data yet?

        • combat_doomerism [he/him]
          hexagon
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          47 minutes ago

          wouldn't surprise me, although i have to imagine even with our posting prowess we might still make up too small a part of the data set to meaningfully influence it

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            39 minutes ago

            AI will never be able to make a BMF post.

            • combat_doomerism [he/him]
              hexagon
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              34 minutes ago

              i'd love to watch it try and see if it somehow becomes more deranged than the real posts or if in a paradoxical way the AI slop posts are easier to understand than his posts

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    8 minutes ago

    150-200 users

    Huh you don't say?

    Show

    So that was a fuckin lie.

    Pretty sure this is one of the most active instances in the entire fediverse despite these nerds trying to scare people away from us through unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander.

      • combat_doomerism [he/him]
        hexagon
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        4 hours ago

        ah you mean meanwhileongrad the community not the instance it's hosted on, i was like yeah but .world and shitjustworks shouldnt be new to you to cause this kind of reaction at first lol. anyways, lots and lots of brainworms comrade, lots and lots of brainworms. also known as rent-free

  • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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    5 hours ago
    1. I love my trans comrades
    2. RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again
    • Vernon_Tennessee [null/void, he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again>

      Right? Like no one is telling you that you have to wreck your mental health by focusing all your energy into how fucked we are but dont live in delusion. Especially when younger people are going to face the consequences.

  • Vernon_Tennessee [null/void, he/him]
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    6 hours ago

    Tbh Ive seen a lot of former chapos/dirtbag lefties go the lib social dem route. I cant imagine why besides some sort of copium to avoid realizing just how fucked everything is right now.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      Caring about other people and being willing to make sacrifices of material comfort for their sake scares a lot of fairweather leftists into being succdems. They dream of magical northern European paradises that make the cruelty invisible and distant.

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        1 hour ago

        Staring into the impending collapse has brought me to a really strange zen with it all. I'm actually looking forward to it; maybe it means the cycle of reincarnation is coming to an end.

        Unless, of course, that absolute bellend Nietzsche is right, in which case god fucking dammit I don't want to have to see this atomized hell on earth ever again.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      5 hours ago

      It's all treatbrain. The Westoid brainpan cannot cope with the idea that avoiding annihilation might require living near a brown person and eating more beans.

  • Alisu [they/them]
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    5 hours ago

    Haha, I sure hope we are, then posting would actually be praxis

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 hours ago

      of course you dont feel like you imported a sense of community, you guys directly imported as much of reddit culture as you could, including the fearmongering over tankies

  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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    7 hours ago

    the number of active users dwindled down to around 150-200

    Hexbear is the Yan’an of r/chapotraphouse’s Long March apparently.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      6 hours ago

      Only a Dunbar's Number worth of active users. Damn, I bet they all know each other and have some degree of social intimacy, unlike us cool dudes in Lemmy who shout endlessly into the void of anonymity.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        6 hours ago

        In the vast nebula of Reddit, individual users don't matter; all that matters is being a charged particle saying something that attracts attention and upvotes like "I'm going to get downvoted for this, but..."

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      6 hours ago

      michael-laugh i dont know why but hyperbolic comparisons to socialist states and what not always make me actually laugh out loud

  • SadArtemis [she/her]
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    7 hours ago

    Was it alt-right or communism for you?

    I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.

    So they started with embracing hate, then embraced communist aesthetics (presumably to be edgy while not understanding the communist analysis), and then finally, they decided that the status quo where murder happens conveniently mostly out of sight of the imperial cores and everything stays the same is best, because all those people resisting the empire are upset for (some reason)?

    • Vernon_Tennessee [null/void, he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      Theres the first red flag. This person is basically just an NPC with no real leanings that latches onto whatever appeals to them on an aesthetic levell off the internet.

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 hours ago

      ...the OP called murder childish? i literally did not read any of the surrounding comments this person made in the thread that is basically as dumb as the entire paragraph of bullshit spewed out preceding it

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        There's also the title of the thread calling the hexbear "racist", which I can't find even the distorted lib version of from reading the post.

        • combat_doomerism [he/him]
          hexagon
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          7 hours ago

          my best guess from reading through blakeus12's original thread is that he calls himself an amerikkkan and maybe goat, top mind of sh.itjust.works that they are, saw the kkk and thought it was racist somehow? i dont know only other thing i could think is that it's racist against rural white people to say you're from dumbfuck no where? normally id just say it's because someone used the word cracker but it's not even said by any of the top level comments in the screenshot so i'm grasping at straws here.

  • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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    8 hours ago

    Yeah hexbear should be more like the rest of the internet where russians, africans, chinese or anyone with a bit of melanin be subject to blood poison rhethoric and the suggestion of nuking undesirable countries are seen as a joke. And genocide is justified because "they were not angels".

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    7 hours ago

    I have a lot of criticisms that I both do and don't share regarding this shithole website, which I have been on since day one (not this account), but not once have I seen people cheer for the deaths of Ukrainian civilians. Off-duty soldiers? Yeah, probably, but those are still soldiers.

    • combat_doomerism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 hours ago

      i'd be interested to hear them sometime feel free to dm me, i've generally found a lot of the stuff you've posted to be pretty insightful in the past even if I haven't agreed with all of it

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    8 hours ago

    If you're younger on this site:

    STOP liking isntrael

    STOP liking porky-happy

    DO NOT believe in the red-brown alliance frothingfash

    AND DO upbear my posts stalin-approval

    This isn't 84 , this is 1985. This is forward.