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  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    lmao talk about full of shit vague-posting nonsense; "hexbear treats war like a football game" says the motherfuckers who've shouted "TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN" every day for the last three years straight, to say nothing of their support for the Palestinian genocide, as if I'd take moral lessons on war from these racist cockroaches

    Also I love how the inciting thread is about Hexbears being nice to and complimenting a child for proficiently articulating their emotions and political journey, but I guess personal development would seem like horror to these reddit rejects

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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      2 months ago

      lmao talk about full of shit vague-posting nonsense; "hexbear treats war like a football game" says the motherfuckers who've shouted "TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN" every day for the last three years straight,

      Don't those assholes have a non-credible defense clone somewhere on sh.itsfulla.nazis, or am I thinking of another fed full of actual bloodmouths

  • Mindfury [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    I started as alt-right

    yeah goat, we could tell

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      For me, it was gamergate

      damn goat, never saw that coming

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        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          2 months ago

          vaushists are almost always like this. If you press them, they'll tell you how they used to be an alt right incel-adjacent chud until Vaush spoke to them and brought them away from the right.

          Like homies, you are still on the right. You never left. You found a left-ish sheet to drape yourself with without changing your western supremacist views whatsoever

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      • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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        With that kind of self-report and the strange consistency of alt-right anticom energy, I'm half-convinced Goat is just Steve Bannon posting from a prison cellie. They let Suge Knight have a podcast; I can't imagine what kind of perks Bannon must be getting rn.

    • iie [they/them, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      @goat@lemmy.ml it really is suspicious that you are so dedicated. In my experience, libs don't care that much about communists. Libs don't spend more than a year trying to make a communist forum look bad, and they certainly don't deliberately distort the truth to do so—like you implying we're anti-vax, or claiming lemmygrad hates trans people as if nutomic speaks for them, when you've been here long enough to know better. Libs don't knowingly lie like that, they don't think they need to. Libs live in a media bubble, they're confident they can express every aspect of their mainstream, socially acceptable, vetted perspective in public and it will surely withstand criticism from some communists on a fringe forum. In my experience, the ones who lie and distort are the alt-right. The dedication, the dishonesty, it really gives me a strange vibe, goat.

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Also I get a casually transphobic vibe from goat, like when they said that people who get offended over being misgendered are "obsessing" and need to "go outside".

        Show

        Edit: further more you have them saying shit like this:

        Show

        Not just denying the gender identity of a bunch of this site's users but also rehashing queerphobic "groomer" accusations.

        • iie [they/them, he/him]
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          2 months ago

          The sidebar pic showing Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is strange too. I know the meme started in China, but surely goat realizes that most people on lemmy have no idea where that meme came from? Lemmy users are going to log on and see a predominantly white forum portraying Xi Jinping as a yellow bear for some reason. Context matters, doesn't it? In China, there's no risk the image will seem racist, but can you imagine posting that image on sh.itjust.works? Fuck. Not something I would ever do. Wasn't there even a thread pointing this out to goat a long time ago, and yet the image is still there?

          • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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            2 months ago

            Wasn't there even a thread pointing this out to goat a long time ago, and yet the image is still there?

            It was actually a different Xi/Winnie the Pooh picture, this one is even more yikes-1yikes-2yikes-3 'cos of the squinty eyes he's been given.

  • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    so they complain about (presumably) /r/news posters treating war 'like a football game'

    yet they're perfectly comfortable posting on .world as 'one of the good ones' after a year of hitler-detector behavior from pretty much every lib on there

    Yeah this is an incredible self-report

  • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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    2 months ago

    This response is fucking classic:

    I’m an anarchist, tankies don’t like me because I like my freedom of speech and right to bear arms, not a kid tho

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        2 months ago

        We've only had ONE real bad struggle session and it's the vegan one, which lasted like half a week three years ago

        And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists" which dominated r/chapotraphouse for half a summer, people on this site are living in forum paradise

        • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists"

          Man, thank god i missed or forgot about that thread in the sub

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            2 months ago

            To this day the funniest struggle session is the time a power poster from r/blackfellas launched a one-man offensive against the whole of r/chapotraphouse

            Man spent the whole thread cussing out the whole sub with half of us joining him and the other half getting in their white feelings, the joy I felt that day, we straight up cuffed half the sub and let that man execute them one by one

              • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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                2 months ago

                Ehhhhhh doubtful. I was around for r/genzedong but I think cth was gone by the time I was indulging misplaced redditor brainworms. Shit, 'blackfellas' sounds like a op on a place like Reddit; I didn't fuck with a single poc sub because I couldn't shake that sense that it was all digital blackface all the way down.

                Like, when I talk to Angel or other homies from em_poc I actually believe that's kinfolk. I never once got that feeling on reddit, anywhere; so I wouldn't go to at for any of 'em like that lmao

                • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                  2 months ago

                  Interestingly the digital blackface problem was precisely the reason r/blackfellas went mod invitation only six years ago, and the "lurking" problem was a constant source of annoyance for people on the sub, having to deal with the constant stream of "As a white person I understand your struggle" posts

                  I remember that was actually one of the reasons that power user launched his blitz against the chapo sub, before the 2017 purge of the stupidpol racists, the chapo sub had a toxic reputation with many poc people on the site (especially black users), but the semi-miracle of early 2018 chapo brought many poc people back to the sub, which was why that power user was a little surprised when half the sub and most of the mods backed up his claims and takes

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            2 months ago

            That was too one-sided to really be called a struggle session, it was more like a dozen people just blatantly outing themselves as transphobes without any pretext, and after a month damn near 95% of the site agreed removing downvotes improved site functionality and reduced toxicity

          • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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            2 months ago

            I spent so long in the posting mines during the multiple neopronoun struggle sessions. You'd never guess which paleopronouns were most vocal in those threads. 😄

              • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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                2 months ago

                Really it's a broader joke-y term for the standard set of English pronouns, but I am particularly referencing the high proportion of he/him-tagged transphobes that were purged in the great conflagration. Now I mostly just pick at that scab to see if there are lurking #NotAllMen posters who have simply failed to show the entirety of their asses, yet.

                I think there were (and to some degree still are) just a lot of performatively radical posters who could not actually bring themselves to introspect and deprogram reactionary parts of themselves. The majority of the early user base was Redditors, and the majority of Redditors are the big pink slice in the trans survey, and operating exclusively from the dominant end of cultural hegemony takes real fucking work to unwind.

                Anecdotally, many cases where this introspection cracked a bunch of eggs. ⚧️

                I think there are ways in which it is better now, but I definitely miss the anarchic flavor of the very early chapo.chat/hexbear community. A lot of that was probably COVID madness and isolation hornt, to be fair. Still more trans/misogyny and racist brainworms than I think most Hexbears would be keen to admit, but the purges really did set a tone that at least sets the floor of discourse a fair bit higher than most in the common social media diet.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 months ago

        Yea tbh I actually think it’s somewhat overblown, people get into dumb slap fights about shit on the Internet, hb isn’t really unique in that regard. I’d rather that than it be a forum of a bunch of liberals agreeing with each other about how the poors need to die.

        ….but tbf I miss like 80% of them these days

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      again, the only scenario where being australian is an advantage - you miss all the drama

    • heggs_bayer
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      2 months ago

      They were more frequent pre-federation. The most recent kerfuffle I can think of that escalated to a full blown struggle sesh was a post in the dunk tank about a man getting offended that his girlfriend wouldn't have slept with him if she didn't know him but is happy he's hubby material, or something like that. That was a few months ago.

  • SadArtemis [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    Was it alt-right or communism for you?

    I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.

    So they started with embracing hate, then embraced communist aesthetics (presumably to be edgy while not understanding the communist analysis), and then finally, they decided that the status quo where murder happens conveniently mostly out of sight of the imperial cores and everything stays the same is best, because all those people resisting the empire are upset for (some reason)?

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        There's also the title of the thread calling the hexbear "racist", which I can't find even the distorted lib version of from reading the post.

          • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            I'm from bum fuck no where and I'm proud. The only reason that would be racist is if you internalize the general classism libs will have towards you and then make it part of a white grievance identity. Ie: make shit up

    • Vernon_Tennessee [null/void, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Theres the first red flag. This person is basically just an NPC with no real leanings that latches onto whatever appeals to them on an aesthetic levell off the internet.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    There's a very very fine line, maybe invisibly tiny, between "radicalizing people" and "sharing what you have slowly figured out without a guide by watching politics interact with the economy from 2006 on".

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        As the OP demonstrates, our comrades on .world do a ton of advertising for us by complaining about us nonstop.

        • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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          2 months ago

          Whether I was radicalized by Hexbear depends on where you draw the line of when someone has too many brainworms to be counted as properly radicalized, and on the extent to which the exorcism of those brainworms is attributable to Hexbear versus any number of other things.

          Edit: rephrased, "too many or too few brainworms" makes it sound like you need to have a golden mean of brainworms to be a radical

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    2 months ago

    That nerd should post what their hexbear account name was or else I'm just going to assume this is made-up self jagoff fanfic typed up by someone with a persecution complex

      • MaeBorowski [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Maybe. But we also have plenty of nostalgia posts here about "remember that struggle session?" Literally one just yesterday about the BRICS girls struggle. Again. There's even that hexbear lore iceberg meme image that floats around sometimes. All it takes is skimming a single nostalgia thread to get that level of hexbear specific knowledge.

        Their "the newsmega was the worst" part is what makes me think they probably were here for just a little while, though. Probably someone who couldn't let go of their imperialist brainworms and were flabbergasted at how we weren't all backing the poor smol bean wholesome Ukrainians and got their ass handed to them by people who actually have some understanding of geopolitics and history. The "treating it like football" is bizarre because the situation was the exact opposite, with the newsmega regulars often pointing out that that is exactly how the blue-and-yellow flag emoji people treat it, and ridiculing that kind of simplistic non-analysis. It's the typical accusation that's actually a confession.

        My guess is that it was some lib who fancied themselves a leftie, who hung out here once or twice before the Ukraine conflict kicked off (when the newsmega was created, basically), said something cringe about it after it did and got schooled as a result. Rather than learn, they ragequit, unable to fathom how people who clearly knew much more than they did didn't support the typical US State Dept. narratives, which they still hold dear to their heart. Now they have constructed some bullshit scenario about it for the .world hexbear-hatred thread that also made them feel better about themselves.

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          2 months ago

          Their "the newsmega was the worst" part is what makes me think they probably were here for just a little while, though. Probably someone who couldn't let go of their imperialist brainworms and were flabbergasted at how we weren't all backing the poor smol bean wholesome Ukrainians and got their ass handed to them by people who actually have some understanding of geopolitics and history. The "treating it like football" is bizarre because the situation was the exact opposite, with the newsmega regulars often pointing out that that is exactly how the blue-and-yellow flag emoji people treat it, and ridiculing that kind of simplistic non-analysis. It's the typical accusation that's actually a confession.

          I just think they got bullied off the site by ZPoster lmao. It was probably what happened. They peddled some Putler is out of missiles bullshit which set off ZPoster.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        2 months ago

        well the burden on proof is on them. I think they're just so obsessed with hexbear hate that they deep-dived into the archives to build their "I was there!" persona.

          • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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            2 months ago

            there was a struggle session about the modlog not showing the moderators names anymore, but yeah I'll also assume that they were a hexbear and just incredibly oblivious

              • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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                2 months ago

                What you see in Hexbear now is Hexbear after the TransComrade69 reforms. Before them, it used to be a lot more rancid and had even worse issues with harassment, transphobia, misogyny, etc from certain users and it was often directed at mods. The change to anonymize mods pissed off the exact kind of user you can imagine.

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  • vegeta1 [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Yeah hexbear should be more like the rest of the internet where russians, africans, chinese or anyone with a bit of melanin be subject to blood poison rhethoric and the suggestion of nuking undesirable countries are seen as a joke. And genocide is justified because "they were not angels".

    • heggs_bayer
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      2 months ago

      And genocide is justified because "they were not angels".

      Don't forget projecting support of genocide onto anti-imperialists.

      • vegeta1 [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Ooooh that's my favorite. The scary boogeyman anti imperialist