Is it an idea to make a comm for like community-crit to handle these things, or even bring it up in a self-crit comm? Not just for the current purge, but for any future ones, too. I think continuously having a place where comrades can be brought up who need to self-crit is a fine idea, and encouraging there more intense discussion about how someone specifically is incorrect. Dunk tank has a bit more of a... Dunk attitude in general.
I'm fine if we just dunk on mysoginists, but it seems the admins in general (based solely on this post) want to encourage self-crit when the comrade seems redeemable, and this idea needs a space with the appropriate approach/culture for that. I can imagine that will be useful when we finally do the anti-anti-China purge that is inevitably approaching too.
Is it an idea to make a comm for like community-crit to handle these things, or even bring it up in a self-crit comm?
I honestly think this is a REALLY bad idea. It would probably just descend into petty arguing and daily struggle sessions within a week.
Here's the best form of self-crit, the mods ban you and if you manage not to screw up the same way again on your next alt, I guess you learned your lesson.
Personally I think this post was I'll advised, should have just banned the user.
This is a good suggestion and one that has been floated but never really materialized. In the current situation I felt this couldn't really wait and that someone needed to be used as an example.
In the case of the reporter in the image I felt it worthwhile to subject them to being made an example of because it is the exact sort of mindset that has been an insidious problem and I have no remorse for subjecting them to whatever ridicule that may entail. It took me quite some time to come around on feminism and it didn't come about by people coddling me with kid gloves on the subject.
Fair enough for this post, totally in agreement about no coddling. Deal with me harshly if I commit a gender-crime, I know it's the only way I will learn quickly enough.
But then is the admin team thinking about setting up such a comm? I get the feeling this purge will be pretty large and is a great moment to get such a comm working well. The perfect trial period, I guess.
Is it an idea to make a comm for like community-crit to handle these things, or even bring it up in a self-crit comm? Not just for the current purge, but for any future ones, too. I think continuously having a place where comrades can be brought up who need to self-crit is a fine idea, and encouraging there more intense discussion about how someone specifically is incorrect. Dunk tank has a bit more of a... Dunk attitude in general.
I'm fine if we just dunk on mysoginists, but it seems the admins in general (based solely on this post) want to encourage self-crit when the comrade seems redeemable, and this idea needs a space with the appropriate approach/culture for that. I can imagine that will be useful when we finally do the anti-anti-China purge that is inevitably approaching too.
I honestly think this is a REALLY bad idea. It would probably just descend into petty arguing and daily struggle sessions within a week.
Here's the best form of self-crit, the mods ban you and if you manage not to screw up the same way again on your next alt, I guess you learned your lesson.
Personally I think this post was I'll advised, should have just banned the user.
This is a good suggestion and one that has been floated but never really materialized. In the current situation I felt this couldn't really wait and that someone needed to be used as an example.
In the case of the reporter in the image I felt it worthwhile to subject them to being made an example of because it is the exact sort of mindset that has been an insidious problem and I have no remorse for subjecting them to whatever ridicule that may entail. It took me quite some time to come around on feminism and it didn't come about by people coddling me with kid gloves on the subject.
Fair enough for this post, totally in agreement about no coddling. Deal with me harshly if I commit a gender-crime, I know it's the only way I will learn quickly enough.
But then is the admin team thinking about setting up such a comm? I get the feeling this purge will be pretty large and is a great moment to get such a comm working well. The perfect trial period, I guess.