And the wild part is I remember for a time G*mers screeching about wanting critics like Roger Ebert to take games seriously as an art. Now they got their wish, developers are treating their projects like art, and they don't like it because it dares to make them uncomfortable sometimes.

  • HarryLime [any]
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    5 days ago

    I saw some chud on twitter post triumphantly that the Sydney Sweeney deodorant commercial was a cultural victory and a return to the good old days of twenty years ago. The sum total of their imagination is a hot lady selling them soap. Utterly dismal existence.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      I sometimes think it would be great to be that fucking stupid, no worries no thoughts head empty. But then i remember they're never happy either.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        They can't watch a kids' movie with spaceships shooting noisy bolts of light without seeing another front in the culture war. They're miserable.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      good old days of twenty years ago

      The good old days of "caring about things makes you stupid and wrong, actually?" The good old days of "gay" as a way of describing anything bad? The good old days "Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory" being used to justify bullying, cruelty, and stalking on the internet?

      How can chuds miss those days when they never fully went away?

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      You think we can make a deal with chuds that in exchange for getting fully automated luxury gay space communism, we promise that ads will have naked anime women selling them shit?

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    It's also a preview of how mass media will look under the next stage of fascism. No themes, no complexity, no message, just guys bein dudes and women being props. No art, only toys.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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      5 days ago

      The whole popularity around ai robot girlfriends fucking terrifies me.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        Ever see what happens at trade conventions where prototype sex robots are presented for demo purposes?

        Convention-goers demolish them in minutes, in public, with SV actions against the robots, Andrew Tate style. It's happened a number of times in a number of places.

        Also, when it comes to digital waifu programs, one of the most popular ways they are used is to deliberately try to abuse and mistreat them, as if the cruelty was what was getting them off.

        The techbros are not okay.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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          5 days ago

          We are so fucked with these people gaining so much outsize power and influence

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            5 days ago

            That recent news where corpo media announced it'd have committees of fans to fandom-check new projects to avoid offending them made me feel pretty fucking doomer.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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              5 days ago

              Within our lifetime we will see the rise of the first gooner "auteur"

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                5 days ago

                Within our lifetime we will see the rise of the first gooner "auteur"

                Already happened, kind of.

                Show

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      MFW Americans are such Disney adults they want to double down on all the things that made it slop in the first place.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    5 days ago

    Why are fascists so opposed to art having anything more than a surface-level meaning, anyway?

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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      5 days ago

      because fascists view art as the maintenance of aesthetic. to a fascist, art must inherently pursue and preserve a standard of 'beauty'. it feels nonsensical, but fascism is an ideology fundamentally centered around mythos and culture. An 'uncouth' or 'ugly' culture is 'd/generate', whereas a 'moral' and 'pretty' culture is 'pure'. fascists view art as the battlefield, because fascist analysis places the aesthetic at the level of importance that we place material conditions.

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        CHUDs constantly go on about “beauty” but fascists single-handedly turn country music into a punchline.

        They’re not even good at living out their own values.

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      If they had paid enough attention in school to understand art can do more than deliver booba images, they wouldn't be fascists.

      Genuinely, though, it's because fascism as a mass movement is currently in its transitory stage where it hasn't found a solid economic foothold. The American petit bourgeoisie is not anxious enough to really cause fascism to crystallize into a solid movement with a complete platform. This is useful for fascists because being vague and abstract allows them to appeal to more people who are just alienated enough to reject liberalism. Keeping everything down to just aesthetics in this ridiculously childish way is all they can do, which ends up working against them as well. I expect that if they had a more organized movement, the aesthetics would remain just as shallow and they still wouldn't understand art, but they'd be at the book burning stage so we'd have bigger problems at our hands than which side has better art.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        but they'd be at the book burning stage

        We're already at the book burning stage and have been for some time now. this-is-fine

        https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/missouri-republican-candidate-torches-lgbtq-inclusive-books-viral-vide-rcna137715

        https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/17/media/right-wing-book-bans-accelerating/index.html

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      Art is communication, communication facilitates understanding, idk quite how to articulate from C to D but that sounds dangerous for the fascist project

      Also rejecting deviation means clamping down on personal expression, leaving just the one acceptable surface aesthetic

    • Owl [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      They're just being dishonest. They're okay with art that has a deeper meaning so long as the deeper meaning is also fascist.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        Chuds do enjoy exploring the deeper meaning behind shit like Attack on Titan.

        Spoiler: more fascism.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      Because they continually seek the moving (and impossible) target of some abstract and vague nostalgic perfect time.

      They chase that dragon forever and anything new or provocative enrages them accordingly.

  • peppersky [he/him, any]
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    5 days ago

    if we call videogame remakes and the shitty ass movies chuds watch art we've already given up art.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    6 days ago

    Whatever chuds are mad about with the SH2 Remake is definitely not caused by the project being treated like art, maybe besides the grander point but that game is a capital P product.

    Really they should be happy they get a game designed from the outset to provide the player with x amount of gameplay for the price tag.