• WertformProphetin [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        "China doing genocide is bad"

        "So you're saying the west doing genocide is good?"

        Mfs when a whole other sentence.

            • novibe@lemmy.ml
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              1 month ago

              How is it cultural genocide when they have all public things (signs, documents etc) written in Mandarin and the local language? If the government rebuilds and renovates historical and religious buildings? Sponsors cultural events, like festivals, parades, performances etc.

              This is true for all autonomous and minority regions and cultures in China btw, not just Xinjiang and the Uyghur people.

              What do you mean by cultural genocide exactly?

            • TankieTanuki [he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 month ago

              Who said it's Sinicisation? People can be taught life skills in a culturally respectful manner. China and Russia are not settler-colonial cultures. Is it cultural genocide to teach Uyghur adults how to read and write in their own language?

          • WertformProphetin [she/her]
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            1 month ago

            Any defender of settler colonialism in the new world or Australia could say the same thing, and you would be the first to point out why it's bad.

            Like it or not, Sinicisation and the destruction of mosques are colonialism and cultural genocide. The massive birth rate drop is also overwhelmingly likely to be genocidal. Even if every report about sterilisation is false, forcing an ethnic minority to have 90% less children than they were before is a genocidal policy: they want less Uighur children to exist.

            Anyone who cares about the self-determination of indigenous peoples would naturally care about this too. China doesn't become ontologically evil because they do some bad stuff. No socialist project should be above critique. China is not our football team.

            • CarbonScored [any]
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              1 month ago

              forcing an ethnic minority to have 90% less children

              Any source on this? Even shitty fake Western news only claims more like 30% at the time.

            • TankieTanuki [he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 month ago

              the destruction of mosques

              That was fake news. That shady Australian weapons lobby organization used satellite photos of a mosque that was being renovated and expanded. The number of mosques has increased in Xinjiang. It's undergoing a cultural revival.

              forcing an ethnic minority to have 90% less children

              Source for those numbers? How do you "force" people to not have kids?

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              1 month ago

              Uighurs are the 2nd fastest growing ethnic group in all of China. Their population is growing both in absolute and relative terms. Westoids cannot address this.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 month ago

      It's best described as compulsory (re)education for at-risk adults. And it's also successfully concluded; the schools have been closed for over four years.

      Westerners have settler-colonialism in their cultural DNA. When they see boarding schools for ethnic minorities, they can't help but project their own genocidal history and intent. But it's not a fair comparison. Schools for First Nations people in North America would beat children for speaking their native tongue, whereas the ones in Xinjiang improved literacy in the indigenous languages.

    • CarbonScored [any]
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      1 month ago

      Is this "footage of concentration camps" in the room with us now? The only videos I've seen were of people being detained (who are now released) or otherwise on voluntary programs.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 month ago

        You can't trust those sly Asiatics! If they're doing something organized then it's probably nefarious.