I've been telling people, if an admin defeds lemmygrad for some smarmy ass lying complete libshit reasons like Ada did, you should have 0 (zero) confidence that she or any other admin who does the same will be willing to engage y'all in good faith and actually work to change their instance, there isn't a single reason to defed lemmygrad that couldn't also be used to defed Hexbear for other than maybe lemmygrad is more sectatarian but that makes up maybe 1% of the content on our comms, or maybe that it's not as outwardly pro-trans*, but then again it's also the only instance in the threadiverse that I'm aware of that specifically makes you give your view on gender as part of it's application to weed out transphobes before they can even make an account (I'm not even sure how many instances even still use applications).
Brigading? I've seen more links dropped in hexbear threads in the like 2 weeks y'all have been federated than I did in 3 months on lemmygrad
Trolling? Y'all literally have an emote of a fucking pig shitting on its own testicles, what trolling can lemmygrad even conjure to compare to that
"being ok with wishing death on the people of Nato" this is the most baffling one, y'all literally have an emote dedicated to this kind of comment that has a nuke symbol and says "Please, Xi" that's used to say that the entirety of the west should be nuked and destroyed which is the exact same of comments made on lemmygrad just without the emote, and that's just the ones that use that emote in particular.
It may look like I'm saying I told you so because, well, I am, I told you so. I would be extremely surprised if that shithead of a mod gets removed, I put it at about the same chances as blahaj refederating with lemmygrad (so never, lol).
*I'm sure lemmygrad could be better in some way about this, but at the same time 11% of our users were trans when we did a survey 2 months ago, which I hope means that it's generally still a good, safe instance for our trans comrades (P.S. WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES)
Edit: some further evidence of shit lib behavior, when she originally defederated lemmygrad it's not like she put effort to remain federated like y'all did, she dropped 2 (two) comments deep in some random ass thread where she called us tankies, this person was never going to put in the same kind of effort that y'all were going to, forgot about this until after I made the post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 their instance is struggling so here's a screenshot if you can't load them
Honestly it was worthwhile for our new trans comrades. I didn't think it would ever last given all the problems with blajah.
Maybe I should edit my post, my point wasn't that hexbear shouldn't have federated with blahaj, I'm in favor of federating with basically every instance besides complete nazi and spam ones, but I saw multiple people arguing that hexbear should curtail its behavior so that blahaj wouldn't defederate it and I've seen surprise that Ada acted like this, that's more what my post is about, that trying to cater to shitlibs will get you absolutely no where and no one should have been surprised by this series of events
personally, I hoped we'd be able to block the problematic comms but keep the trans comms linked. it's their inability to enforce their own ToS on their moderators that actually surprises me. I think I've just forgotten what libs are like over the past few years and I think that's true for a lot of us. we're used to moderators and admins taking a firm hand while responding to input from the community. the spinelessness is more galling than anything else.
I think that's fair, I've been on lemmygrad even a few weeks before the great
migration, and so I've just seen for like 2 months straight how all these lib admins act towards lemmygrad, and hexbear is really not that different as far as politics go and is more "disruptive" as far as its posting style and activity levels go, so I just don't see a world where they won't use the exact same excuses to defed hexbear. Case in point, Beehaw has basically said they've defederated from lemmygrad because of hate speech (lol), and lo and behold hexbear is also mysteriously defederated, probably for "hate speech"
oh yeah, beehaw defederated us before we cut over to lemmy proper and before the site url had changed. it was very funny and there were a couple of shitposts suggesting we not change the url so their block wouldn't work.
left unity gives us a bit of cover cause it's not immediately obvious that we're going to come in hot about like, China. it's enough room that diplomacy can work - but it takes admins who are willing to take a firmer stand. if Ada had banned that 196 mod and the user claiming we were faking being trans, we'd still be federated. that's all it would have taken to make comm blocking on both sides a feasible option. it's the lack of principles and lackadaisical approach to moderation that actually spiked things. ideological differences only highlighted that deeper tension.
I agree
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