You call out Russia or China, MLs think if they regurgitate "read theory" that solves my issues with them.

You call out American liberals and how they aid fascists, you're calling a secret Trump supporter.

You say that genocide is an evil action, liberals and Tankies will defend their favorite country's actions because you're a shill for the enemy if you do.

You say America did something kinda good, you're somehow a neolib in disguise. You lightly praise the USSR, you're Stalin's second cousin as an AI.

I just don't want people harmed by a government force. Fuck me, I guess? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for applying the same morals to every politician and country, even ones I live in or slightly like.

Edit: If someone said it was annoying being an leftist and a bunch of liberals came in exusing their actions and doubling down, everyone would be singing a different tune. Just kinda fascinating.

  • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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    Named self after EVD, who famously became a marxist after reading theory while stuck in prison

    complains about being told to read theory

    Have you tried having serious politics instead vaguely vibing with generally anti-government ideas?

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        1 month ago

        "We have nothing special to offer the Negro, and we cannot make separate appeals to all the races." -- Your man.

        Typical cracker.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Oh. Didn't know that. Jesus.

          Edit: oh it's out of context nevermind.

          The voice of Socialism must be as inspiring music to the ears of those in bondage, especially the weak black brethren, doubly enslaved, who are bowed to the earth and groan in despair beneath the burden of the centuries.

          For myself, my heart goes to the Negro and I make no apology to any white man for it. In fact, when I see the poor, brutalized, outraged black victim, I feel a burning sense of guilt for his intellectual poverty and moral debasement that makes me blush for the unspeakable crimes committed by my own race.

          Same piece it comes from.

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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        You mean people have repeatedly pointed out you don't hold the values of the person you named yourself after? Should that not prompt at least a little introspection?

  • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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    You say that genocide is an evil action, liberals and Tankies will defend their favorite country's actions because you're a shill for the enemy if you do.

    Um, no "tankie" would be upset if you call out genocide. Are you talking about the Uyghurs? Because that's not a genocide.

      • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        Nah, you're just a idiot that lacks basic media literacy skills and accepts western propaganda without the slightest bit of skepticism.

          • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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            Ok but do you actually have some kind of tangible evidence of genocide (like the thousands of pictures and videos released by Palestinians and colonisers in Gaza), or do you just believe Zenz's conspiracy theories about census data?

          • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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            1 month ago

            You need to workshop your insult game. All bark and no bite. Ran out of ideas after calling someone "ridiculous?" Pathetic.

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            "I totally take a principled stand against states. It's just coincidence that I believe all of the things the US state department tells me to believe about its geopolitical enemies."

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        1 month ago

        Hi anarchist here, it has been demonstrated time and again that there is no genocide going on with Uyghurs and it is simply reactionary US propaganda. There are plenty of things to criticize about China but this is not one of them.

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        Where's the evidence, cornball? Til you produce it, I'm assuming you're either an RFA opp or that non-Chinese-speaking cornball hack Zenz himself

        And before you whine that I copy-pasted this; I don't owe you shit. This whole bullshit-assed take "ChInA gEnOcIdE" take is copy-paste ad infinitum anyway; you get what you give. If even a quarter of you crackers cared half as much that you live in a fucking slave state than about this bullshit consent-manufacture campaign you EAGERLY run for the three-letter agencies, we might've actually achieved full-and-true abolition by now.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        Did they ever find Saddam's WMDs? How about Nayirah's incubator babies?

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Instead of avoiding the issue by quibbling about definitions in order to serve authoritarianism... (standard tankie tactic)

      Y'all could just oppose the overt oppression of a marginalized group.

        • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Next time look up "quibbling" before replying.

          Oppression doesn't need to meet your personal definition of "genocide" to be oppressive. Links in my other comment.

          Y'all are just brainwashed fash. Alt-imperialists.

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            You're committing bank fraud with your stupid posts. If you try to claim that you're not actually committing bank fraud, that's quibbling.

          • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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            I'm not sifting through your other fucking comments. put the evidence here or fuck off.

            edit: ohh, it got deleted. Big surprise there

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        Where's the evidence, cornball? Til you produce it, I'm assuming you're either an RFA opp or that non-Chinese-speaking cornball hack Zenz himself

          • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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            Adrian Zenz (a westerner that reports on China while speaking not a lick of ANY of their languages himself) is a source in the UN reporting if you go back far enough to actually check the PDF their report sources from; and human rights watch? You crackers cannot be serious.

            Like I thought. Radio Free Asia puppets for people who have had no objective but the creation of a Wahhabist splinter faction that they could turn into the same kind of leashed dog that they made Boko Haram and ISIS into for the past fifty fucking years. Forever the weakest link.

            If there's really a genocide going on, then where are the actual muslims that actually live in that region decrying this? Where are the international muslim organizations that went to XUAR to investigate? Since when does 'deradicalization' mean genocide? Unless of course, you're projecting what your people did at Guantanamo onto the rest of the world.

            Cracker-ass.

            • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              where are the actual muslims that actually live in that region decrying this?

              The oppressor always blames the oppressed.

              Since when does ‘deradicalization’ mean genocide?

              Red fash are fashy.

              If there’s really a genocide going on

              Look up "quibbling". Oppression doesn't need to meet your definitions to be bad.

              Enjoy those crackers in your word salad. Pathetic.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        It isn't quibbling about definitions, there literally is no genocide going on. China has I think the most Mosques of any country, and regarding another ethnic minority they have gone to great lengths to preserve the tibetan language meanwhile in the US only 8% of indigenous people speak their native language. This is not a tankie tactic it's simply pushing back on your racist orientalist bullshit.

  • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    "These heroes in Russia who have immortalized their cause, our cause, who have paid in overflowing measure in blood and tears and agony unspeakable, the price of their fidelity and devotion to the oppressed and exploited toilers not only of their own land but of the whole world, now appeal to us for the food that shall save them from perishing as hostages to starva- tion, and shall we now fail to return in small party what we owe them for what they have suffered in the awful years of the revolution to break the fetters of labor everywhere and set humanity free from the curse of the ages?" -- some tankie I guess

  • Fleur_@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    I have a theory that the more reasonable the political beliefs the less attention they garner and thus don't become as popular. No one wants to have a boring conversation about things that are just objectily good. The people want discourse!

  • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
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    Eugene V Debs would be dissapointed in you lol

    I just don't want people harmed by a government force. Fuck me, I guess?

    tbh yeah, fuck you. i dont understand why your ideology should be given any regard at all. Its an ideology of barely any worth besides anthropological.