what? I literally used it as an example of why something wouldn't work. what I'm upset about is the presumption that you know how I feel better than I do.
prescriptivism is only one and fairly outdated view of language.
the grammatical usage of the term does not negate its connotations in actual use. moreover, I can neither justify myself to you nor provide you a satisfactory logical explanation because there isn't one -- I asked people to call me they/them for a while and discovered through experience that it does not sit well with me. why do you feel entitled to police how I feel about myself
So in that case if I’m referring to you but don’t know your pronouns, what do you prefer??? They/them is just like, the role of that in English. It’s meant to be a word without gender connotation, like, I’m trans and I don’t get why you can’t just be accommodating to people. Do you mean on here on Chapo.chat you wouldn’t like it, or like does that apply to real life too where your pronouns aren’t next to your name and people just gotta go neutral until they know.
if you don't know my pronouns, you're either going to guess, go with they/them, or ask me. how can my preference matter until you ask me? if you ask me, I'm going to tell you she/her. if you guess or go with they/them, I'm going to correct you at my first opportunity.
I'm not talking about what people should do before they know. I'm saying that once they do, they/them are not my pronouns and it's incorrect to use them for me.
on this website, if you're referring to me it's because you can see my username so my flair is visible - they/them is consequently not appropriate.
use the flair next to someone's name, what's complicated about this?
Oh, this was never made clear and from an outsider's perspective it looked like you meant that using they/them at any point was transphobic, even when your preferences weren't known
this was in response to a thread that started based on someone saying they would prefer a world where we used no pronouns but they or comrade. I replied that that would suck for me because my pronouns are not they/them. people then started arguing with me that those pronouns must apply to me whatever my feelings. at what point was I not clear that I'm talking about my pronouns?
this would suck pretty badly for me. my pronouns are emphatically not they/them or comrade.
I am explicitly telling you that that’s not true. if you directly address me with they/them knowing that, you are intentionally misgendering. I am far from unique on this and it’s true for some of both cis and trans people.
what? I literally used it as an example of why something wouldn't work. what I'm upset about is the presumption that you know how I feel better than I do.
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Arguments from tradition and authority eh? Fuck off with that reactionary shit lmao
So in that case if I’m referring to you but don’t know your pronouns, what do you prefer??? They/them is just like, the role of that in English. It’s meant to be a word without gender connotation, like, I’m trans and I don’t get why you can’t just be accommodating to people. Do you mean on here on Chapo.chat you wouldn’t like it, or like does that apply to real life too where your pronouns aren’t next to your name and people just gotta go neutral until they know.
if you don't know my pronouns, you're either going to guess, go with they/them, or ask me. how can my preference matter until you ask me? if you ask me, I'm going to tell you she/her. if you guess or go with they/them, I'm going to correct you at my first opportunity.
I'm not talking about what people should do before they know. I'm saying that once they do, they/them are not my pronouns and it's incorrect to use them for me.
on this website, if you're referring to me it's because you can see my username so my flair is visible - they/them is consequently not appropriate.
use the flair next to someone's name, what's complicated about this?
Oh, this was never made clear and from an outsider's perspective it looked like you meant that using they/them at any point was transphobic, even when your preferences weren't known
this was in response to a thread that started based on someone saying they would prefer a world where we used no pronouns but they or comrade. I replied that that would suck for me because my pronouns are not they/them. people then started arguing with me that those pronouns must apply to me whatever my feelings. at what point was I not clear that I'm talking about my pronouns?
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I think they're on the grammatical gender train but I don't have the patience or wherewithal left to unpack that tonight.