I really do feel like I'm taking crazy pills with libs this election. The last two they at least had a bloodless rationale to the "lesser of two evils" rhetoric.

But this is genocide, the canonical Worst Thing You Can DO! I know many just believe that it's not a genocide at all because Palestinian civilians are all Hamas and just subhuman or that the videos published by official IOF channels are all deepfaked by the hungry ghost of Nasrallah. But then just FUCKING SAY IT and then we can call you a genocide denier and we'll know where we stand!

What I can't get is that many do seem to agree it's a genocide and Kamala is complicit. But then they lesser evil by going "Well if we don't vote then Trump will do bad things to trans people here."

Like Fuck You! You scheming, gaslighting bloody handed monster!

Either this is just a disingenuous argument to get your team in power or to maintain liberal civility politics, in which case double Fuck You that you think people are abstract political tools.

Or, you actually believe this, and the freedom of an LGBT person here outweighs the lives of 2 million people, many LGBT, who happen to have had the extreme misfortune to be born 5 cm over the border and thus outside your ability to feel empathy.

In which case Triple Fuck You, because you are, somehow, more of a fascist than Trump. At least Trump is too incoherent to make a complete argument for fascist policy!

I'm going mad, I really am. How can people be streamed genocide live on CNN and just say "well, I guess we're ok with genocide now!" Is the US public even human?! Even the fucking Germans had the good sense to pretend to look guilty after they lost.

  • LigOleTiberal [he/him]
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    20 hours ago

    huh? do you think trump wouldn't also do the same genicidal policies or worse?

    that's the only way your argument makes any sense.

    if the 2 options have the same genocidal policy in palestine, voting for kamala because her other policies are better than trump still makes her the lesser of two evils.

    anyway I voted for PSL and you should too.

    • Runcible [none/use name]
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      18 hours ago

      The argument is that if both parties can win while supporting genocide then the government will always do so where in the theoretical world where Dems lose by supporting genocide there might be administrations opposed to it. You do have to be willing to consider a future elections for the train of thought.

    • JayTreeman [none/use name]
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      17 hours ago

      I had some success asking someone how Trump would be different for Palestinians. They said that he'd bomb them more. I replied with then current pictures of gaza and asked how more bombs would actually be different. To his credit, he seemed to get my point

      • LigOleTiberal [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        you can always kill more people in one day than you do now if you are in charge of the US empire.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      18 hours ago

      The key issue of lesser evilism is it doesn't work because it necessitates 100% honesty and competence from all parties involved. Her policies are better in theory only and Dems have a terrible record of actualy fighting and delivering on their "better" policies. Likewise some of the worst fears about the Trump admin are outright fantastical, some are already being done by Biden, and some didn't happen despite what they claimed the first time.

      • LigOleTiberal [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        biden's policies domestically were better than trumps. and he pulled the troops out of afghanistan. shrug-outta-hecks