Old Trek always danced around it, but In Strange New Worlds there's a roughly 3000 year old character in Starfleet who says "I still have a bunker in Vermont in case this 'no money socialist utopia' thing turns out to be a fad"
I tried getting into Strange New Worlds but it just feels like generic nutrek. The same unnecessary constant violence, the same poorly-written incoherent arc for the main character, the same tired old prequel approach instead of being set sometime after the events of other series. It's just more STD with some TOS paint slapped on top.
Unfortunately, I agree. The tipping point for me was the humour. I don’t like it and I don’t want it. It’s funny how I could be tolerant of cliche in many other types of entertainment, but cliche comedy very quickly turns me off.
That and the resurrection of ancient characters. It’s fan service (I learned this term watching reviews of SNW/picard and learned to hate it) and adds very little to the show. I’m much less interested in the interpersonal dramas, I want to see more (any) space communism and aspirational utopia progaganda.
It's definitely nutrek but it's halfway back to old trek in the format IMHO. Not just the paintjob but in the types of episodes they tend to do. Picard was unwatchable for me. "Hey nerd 'member the Enterprise D? 'Member??? Ok now fuck off"
Those two series, Picard and Lower Decks, are perfect case studies on how to handle nostalgia very badly and very well, respectively. In the future I will give a chance to any TV series or movie that the Lower Decks writers are involved with.
The TNG movies made me question if Patrick Stewart still truly understood his most famous character. The Picard series made me realize that he probably never did.
Speaking of season 2, I think I have a crush on both Ma'ah and T'lyn. Honour friends, slay enemies, study plants, and be Vulcan as a motherfucker.
I've always liked the theory that T'lyn's Vulcan captain is her father. He's looking out for her in his own Vulcan way in trying to help her fit in, but he also trusts her completely. I loved the little detail of T'lyn using her robe's belt as a headband. She's breaking her ship's dress code and doesn't care who knows, which is oddly familiar.
And Ma'ah and Mariner need to hook up. They understand each other's culture and values, and they understand that the other isn't at all a stereotype of their species.
It's fantastic, it's obviously made by people who deeply love and understand classic Trek, especially TNG. Only the animation style bears any resemblance to Rick and Morty, there's none of its cynicism and punching-down. Lower Decks has so much heart.
Old Trek always danced around it, but In Strange New Worlds there's a roughly 3000 year old character in Starfleet who says "I still have a bunker in Vermont in case this 'no money socialist utopia' thing turns out to be a fad"
3000 year old fad lmao
I tried getting into Strange New Worlds but it just feels like generic nutrek. The same unnecessary constant violence, the same poorly-written incoherent arc for the main character, the same tired old prequel approach instead of being set sometime after the events of other series. It's just more STD with some TOS paint slapped on top.
Unfortunately, I agree. The tipping point for me was the humour. I don’t like it and I don’t want it. It’s funny how I could be tolerant of cliche in many other types of entertainment, but cliche comedy very quickly turns me off.
That and the resurrection of ancient characters. It’s fan service (I learned this term watching reviews of SNW/picard and learned to hate it) and adds very little to the show. I’m much less interested in the interpersonal dramas, I want to see more (any) space communism and aspirational utopia progaganda.
It's definitely nutrek but it's halfway back to old trek in the format IMHO. Not just the paintjob but in the types of episodes they tend to do. Picard was unwatchable for me. "Hey nerd 'member the Enterprise D? 'Member??? Ok now fuck off"
Those two series, Picard and Lower Decks, are perfect case studies on how to handle nostalgia very badly and very well, respectively. In the future I will give a chance to any TV series or movie that the Lower Decks writers are involved with.
The TNG movies made me question if Patrick Stewart still truly understood his most famous character. The Picard series made me realize that he probably never did.
Best line of that whole series
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Okay I might actually have to give this show a chance
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Spoiler-ish stuff
Speaking of season 2, I think I have a crush on both Ma'ah and T'lyn. Honour friends, slay enemies, study plants, and be Vulcan as a motherfucker.
I've always liked the theory that T'lyn's Vulcan captain is her father. He's looking out for her in his own Vulcan way in trying to help her fit in, but he also trusts her completely. I loved the little detail of T'lyn using her robe's belt as a headband. She's breaking her ship's dress code and doesn't care who knows, which is oddly familiar.
And Ma'ah and Mariner need to hook up. They understand each other's culture and values, and they understand that the other isn't at all a stereotype of their species.
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It's fantastic, it's obviously made by people who deeply love and understand classic Trek, especially TNG. Only the animation style bears any resemblance to Rick and Morty, there's none of its cynicism and punching-down. Lower Decks has so much heart.
I think you've just convinced me to watch it because that's exactly why I hadn't watched it lmao
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Lower Decks has been pretty dsmn amazing. I made a big gushing post in the mega. It's the only newer trek that I think really gets it
It looks so fun, I might have to pick up LD!
Can confirm, Lower Decks good