I love thermal throttling under even mild workloads because my computer is designed only for aesthetics and the only cooling solution is "well the body is aluminum so thats like a heatsink i guess"
True, the new M chips do run a lot cooler, its at least an improvement over their intel macs which would throttle if you tried to do literally anything. This could be solved by 1mm more of thickness and a laptop fan but apple understands their fanbase and would never do that.
Cost vs cooling efficiency isn't there yet. Maybe it gets better after a few more years of research, maybe it hits a dead end like thermoelectric pads, hard to say without insider knowledge.
I did some more googling, seems like at best it can deliver 6 watts of cooling for each watt...
not sure how they'll bridge that gap without something remarkable in material science and manufacturing, the commercialisation in a different sector
i put to me a stupid amount of money into a 2019 macbook pro when it came out bc i never had a nice computer and wanted to treat myself and now i barely use the thing because it thermal throttles constantly
They are more efficient for sure, but whether or not they overheat is a matter of how much passive cooling that box really has, e.g. the Macbook Airs still have some issues with throttling, I haven't looked at the specs but maybe they power limit the chips in the imacs at the cost of some performance in order to not hit TJ max, but if that's the case why not just buy a higher end mbp?
I love thermal throttling under even mild workloads because my computer is designed only for aesthetics and the only cooling solution is "well the body is aluminum so thats like a heatsink i guess"
In Apple's defense, Apple Silicon processors are at least better about thermal efficiency.
On the other hand, tech companies should have learned from the Red Ring of Death and stayed away from this form over function thing.
True, the new M chips do run a lot cooler, its at least an improvement over their intel macs which would throttle if you tried to do literally anything. This could be solved by 1mm more of thickness and a laptop fan but apple understands their fanbase and would never do that.
What ever happened to MEMS fans?
Cost vs cooling efficiency isn't there yet. Maybe it gets better after a few more years of research, maybe it hits a dead end like thermoelectric pads, hard to say without insider knowledge.
I did some more googling, seems like at best it can deliver 6 watts of cooling for each watt... not sure how they'll bridge that gap without something remarkable in material science and manufacturing, the commercialisation in a different sector
i put to me a stupid amount of money into a 2019 macbook pro when it came out bc i never had a nice computer and wanted to treat myself and now i barely use the thing because it thermal throttles constantly
The m series processors don’t really overheat
They are more efficient for sure, but whether or not they overheat is a matter of how much passive cooling that box really has, e.g. the Macbook Airs still have some issues with throttling, I haven't looked at the specs but maybe they power limit the chips in the imacs at the cost of some performance in order to not hit TJ max, but if that's the case why not just buy a higher end mbp?