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[Graph from here](World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country (No other country even makes the first page))

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    The Cuba data is from here they're probably doing something like including people on probation, or in community service. 450 prisoners per institution is pretty high. US prisons are at 130% capacity and have about 400 per facility so those number just don't make sense.

    The China numbers are questionable too. Even with the low incarcerated rate, they somehow fit 3000 people in each institution (4000 if you include the Uhigurs which the database hints at but avoids sure to lack of reliable figures)

    • curmudgeonthefrog [he/him]
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      19 days ago

      Can't find much about the numbers of prisoners. But folks should check out the plan progressivo. (i had to use scihub to view) Most Cuban prisoners have short term stays (1-4 years). Are paid the same as civilians. Are watched and given political education by civilians who do the same work, live in the same quarters and eat the same food as the prisoners. There are lots of sports, with baseball being pretty popular. It kinda sounds closer to a summer camp with classes, paid farm work and camp counselors than what we think about prisons in the US.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        19 days ago

        I've read about that, and yeah I wouldn't include those in prison statistics any more than id include people in rehab or a halfway house.

        The biggest thing is being remunerated for labor at I believe the standard rate minus deductions for room and board.