This is too much of a cognitohazard for me to bother translating in full, hence the summary rather than full translation

Original text in Norwegian

Dagens samfunn lar oss knapt kunne si noe uten å tråkke noen på tærne. Det som en gang var vanlige, maskuline verdier – åpenhet, handlekraft og pågangsmot – blir ofte kritisert som «giftig maskulinitet».

Mange unge menn føler at de verken kan være seg selv eller uttrykke seg fritt, fordi alt blir nøye kontrollert av en krenkekomité som slår ned på alt som kan såre noen.

I en verden der politikere veier hvert ord på gullvekt for å appellere til størst mulig grad av velgerkretsen, står Trump som en av få som sier ting rett ut. Selv med hans typiske overdrivelser, stoler jeg mer på hans ord enn på vanlige politikere.

Mange unge har mistet troen på at politikere bryr seg om folks virkelige problemer. Mens politikerne prioriterer idealistiske temaer som klima og solidaritet, er unge mer opptatt av å få endene til å møtes.

Når de samme gamle sakene gjentas uten konkrete resultater, fremstår Trump som et friskt pust.

Vi er lei av venstresidens konstante belærende moralske overlegenhet. Trump er en politisk outsider som utfordrer og har erfaring utenfor politikken. I en verden der mange føler at institusjonene har sviktet, representerer han en som faktisk tar opp kampen mot systemet.

Mange unge menn ser verdien av å forme sin egen vei uten en stat som stadig legger hindringer. I Norge ser vi en stadig voksende stat som blander seg inn i alt fra økonomi til helsevalg, noe mange unge velgere viser økende misnøye med – noe som også bekreftes av unge menns politiske preferanser i Norge.

For mange unge står Trump som en representant for noe annet. Han støtter lavere skatter og mindre statlig kontroll, noe som appellerer til dem som ønsker mer økonomisk frihet.

Hans prioritering av nasjonale interesser og fokus på energiuavhengighet har også betydning. Han har jobbet for å styrke selvforsyning, særlig innen energi, noe som ikke bare skaper arbeidsplasser, men også reduserer avhengigheten av utenlandsk import.

Dette treffer en nerve hos mange unge nordmenn, som ser på Norges økte fokus på fornybar energi og internasjonale forpliktelser som en utfordring for landets egen oljeindustri.

Trump representerer en politikk som verdsetter uavhengighet og nasjonale ressurser, noe mange unge ser på som avgjørende i et usikkert globalt marked. Under hans ledelse vokste den amerikanske økonomien, arbeidsledigheten sank, og mange opplevde faktisk økonomisk trygghet.

Han setter amerikanske interesser først, viser vilje til å prioritere selvstendighet, og verdsetter de frihetene som mange unge ønsker mer av i hverdagen. For unge nordmenn som ser på stadig økt statlig inngripen og svekkelse av oljeindustrien med skepsis, er det et forfriskende perspektiv.

For meg handler det ikke minst om å støtte en motvekt til en kulturell og politisk utvikling jeg føler meg stadig mer fremmedgjort av.

Når man blir ignorert av en politisk klasse som virker ute av kontakt med virkeligheten og konstant preker moralsk overlegenhet, er det ikke rart at man støtter en kandidat som tør å være annerledes.

Så ja, hadde jeg bodd i USA, ville jeg ha stemt på Trump.

Summary in English

Radan opens the piece by complaining about "snowflakes" calling traditional masculine virtues "toxic masculinity" — or more precisely rather than "snowflake" he uses the term "krenkekomité" meaning "offense committee" — and he then claims that Trump by contrast "tells it like it is". Radan then asserts that caring about things like solidarity and the environment is "idealistic" when people "just want to make ends meet" — Trump, Radan says, is a political outsider who's taking up the fight against "the system", a breath of fresh air who's going to get things done, unlike the "left-wing moralizers"; and in so doing, Trump represents all the young men who want to go their own way without the obstacles of the state. Radan then quickly remarks on how young voters are dissatisfied with the current size of the Norwegian state.

Radan says that Trump represents for many young people "something else" — someone who will lower taxes and reduce state interference and give them economic freedom. He asserts that Trump's prioritization of the USA's national interests and his focus on energy and resource independence will create jobs and reduce the USA's reliance on foreign imports, and that it's precisely this about the former president that catches the eye of many young Norwegians, who see Norway's commitment to renewable energy and international agreements, and excessive state intervention, as a force challenging and weakening the oil industry. Many young people, according to Radan, see resource independence as decisive in an "uncertain global market". Further Radan claims that under Trump that the USA's economy grew and unemployment decreased and many were lifted into economic safety.

Radan concludes by calling Trump a "counterweight" to "cultural and political developments" that he finds himself alienated by, and that it is unsurprising that a politician who "dares to be himself" has won the support of those who feel ignored by a "political class of out-of-touch moralizers".


What concerns me above all else is, firstly, that NRK would actually publish this opinion piece; and secondly, that "half of young men" according to this piece believe in this sort of nonsense, that even the most charitable among us would hesitate to call "sophistry at best". The "student of economics" who wrote this piece plainly to me reads as a ghoul of the oil industry and a "belly-showing dog" for Septic imperialism, and generally a reactionary who is staking his life on the continuation of capitalist system.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      The only time I will ever be proudly anti-intellectual is towards economics.

      Normies “fucking love economics” the same way leftists are ACCUSED to “fucking love science.”

      • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        My problem isn't towards economics as a science, but towards what we understand as economics in the contemporary western world.

        Regurgitating neoliberal dogma about supply and demand, about liberalisation of the economy being good for everyone, about protectionism being bad, and about austerity policy working, isn't scientific. And that's sadly what they teach in faculties and show on TV.

        Modern monetary theory, economic planning, China's government economic policy... All of those are real, scientific economics, proven by the fact that they, well, work lol.

        If neoliberal economics don't hace predictive capabilities, they're not a science. Other types of economics do have predictive capabilities, so they are a science. By being against neoliberal economics you're not being anti-intellectual, you're being against an obvious political manipulation of an otherwise scientific field that has been intoxicated for the past 5 decades.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    Do young men in Norway actually believe this crap?

    “Everyone wants to be a crude, pretentious asshole but they feel guilty by a tiny minority of disgusting goody-goody weaklings who tell us off when we do!”

    It’s fucking Norway, not the US. Yeah, it’s no angel in terms of geopolitics but culturally its a lot superior to the land of klansmen and eugenics.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      “Everyone wants to be a crude, pretentious asshole but they feel guilty by a tiny minority of disgusting goody-goody weaklings who tell us off when we do!”

      Sounds like the South Park fan comm in the Lemmyverse. I couldn't unsub fast enough once I knew it existed and saw the posts there.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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      2 days ago

      I have certainly met a few young men who seem to have that sort of mindset. I have noticed an uptick in Nazi or otherwise racist activity in my home region in recent years, too. I feel like there's been a lot of talk lately about how the Progress Party has been trending among young men in Norway, and how even the phrase "Vote for the Progress Party" has become a "dogwhistle" for anti-immigrant sentiment.

      However, my own social circle doesn't actually contain too many young men at the moment — frankly it's mostly old ladies and I am Thriving for it — so I don't know if I'm the right person to say how widespread a phenomenon this sort of thinking really is among young men in this country. Just that I have observed it in person and heard people talk about it.

      But also....

      It’s fucking Norway, not the US. Yeah, it’s no angel in terms of geopolitics but culturally its a lot superior to the land of klansmen and eugenics.

      I would like to point out that Norway is probably a lot more racist than you think it is. While it makes sense and is a good thing to look at Seppoland with derision, seeing as Seppoland is the Head of the Snake — let's not look at other countries with rose-tinted glasses by comparison.

      Like, this was what joikakake-cans looked like until 2021, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

      CW: racist caricature, meat

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  • drev@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    What a terribly inaccurate claim that is. I was born in the US but left about 7 years ago to live in Norway, and I've met a lot of people since then. Being from the US, Trump comes up almost immediately after the "where are you from" question. Not even one single person has expressed that they see Trump as anything less than a baffling and sad joke lol.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
      hexagon
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      2 days ago

      My mom — a US-born immigrant in Norway — once said during the Trump presidency that people in Norway looked at the USA the same way people in the USA looked at South Africa in the 1980s.