seems like we only have ~10 years to deal with climate change. also seems like joe biden is gonna get the nom. What the fuck do we do in these next few years given that the dems are not remotely interested in dealing with climate change in any real way?

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Algerian revolutionaries? The Sandinistas? Fuck, Castro's army wasn't that big.

    You're just looking for reasons to give up.

    It "fell out of favor" because a lot of it was aimless violence, which is not what I'm advocating, and the rest were stamped out by newer state powers. The Western left has been impotent since '68 anyway. So what's the fucking counterexample?

    Looking for an example of something that's never been done isn't exactly easy. We don't live in the past anymore. This is a different era.

    They were sending Feds to infiltrate little old ladies with sewing circles who opposed the Iraq War. And that was fifteen years before they built this modern surveillance apparatus, and they started throwing kids into concentration camps.

    So there's not going to be tens of millions of people in a working class party, or even a small vanguard in the tens or hundreds of thousands. That's not possible anymore. Attempts to build that kind of movement get squashed in their infancy.

    General strikes or alternate mutual aid networks are building towards a labor strategy that existed to exert pressure before the state was this involved and the supply chains are domestic and uncomplicated.

    This is the only lever in front of us for the foreseeable future, and it's the only thing we refuse to do.

    Is it really fucking because it won't do anything? Or is it because it's fucking scary, and everyone would rather just keep their head down?

    • Hoyt [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It “fell out of favor” because a lot of it was aimless violence, which is not what I’m advocating,

      oh, i misunderstood your point. I thought you were talking about terrorist cells like 17 November in Greece, not small-scale cadres.