• Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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        2 months ago

        A liberation theologian still wouldn’t and still shouldn’t replace the Bible with Marxism and the cross with a hammer and sickle etc.

        • SadArtemis [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          How about this? (kinda lazily done)

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          also came to mind but if anyone thinks its emote worthy fire away

          • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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            2 months ago

            I envy people like you who can make a great drawing like this with minimum effort...

            • SadArtemis [she/her]
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              2 months ago

              Thanks! :) fwiw it wasn't that minimal, but I also have had- some practice I guess? Even if not often enough for the longest time, it's always been a hobby..

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              • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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                2 months ago

                Yeah its good character design as well! Won't look out of place in a nice webcomic. The world needs your drawings!

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          You see it as replacing, but I don't see why it can't be both at the same time?

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            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              They're really not equivalent, yeah, but I'm not gonna reject Marxists who want to take the new Catholic symbol and make something communist with it because even Pope Francis wants us to be more open to working together.

              • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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                2 months ago

                Communist can do what they like, I can’t stop them.
                Personally though, I’m not keen on taking a character whose whole artistic purpose is to be a cute little pilgrim and turn her into something she isn’t or emphasizes something that runs contrary to that purpose.

                I realize I’m being no-fun-allowed about it, but I think too much of the fan art I’ve seen has strayed from the purity and innocence the original artwork was meant to invoke.
                Whether it’s people overly memeifying it, or weird trads portraying her as a crusader killing people etc. and so on.

                Sure, she’s not high art or even I would say sacred, but people are taking a character who was made to help guide people to God and have foisted a lot of their own earthly hang ups on to it and that rubs me the wrong way.

                Sure the Pope says Catholics and Marxist should be more open to working together, but I don’t know if you can build that kind of relationship by taking a “Catholic symbol” removing everything holy about it and replacing it with communism.
                It strikes me as rather disrespectful and or offensive and thus counter-productive to that goal.

                • sneak100
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                  2 months ago

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                • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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                  2 months ago

                  shrug-outta-hecks I totally get where you're coming from, but if I can put my differences aside to the point that I can equally laugh at the qin-shi-huangdi-fireball images as well as Anarchist memes, I can't justify to myself to feel disrespected by something that's meant in good will. Everyone's got a line that's their prerogative to draw where they see fit though.

                • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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                  2 months ago

                  people are taking a character who was made to help guide people to God and have foisted a lot of their own earthly hang ups

                  However, how else can one start to build a path to your God for the mortals of the earth but with the familiar earthly materials? All rivers must flow to the sea no matter how many twists and turns they take.

                  but I don’t know if you can build that kind of relationship by taking a “Catholic symbol” removing everything holy about it and replacing it with communism

                  Communism is also holy since its teleology is born out of the abrahamic dream of creating paradise on earth where one loves thy neighbor, as stated by his holiness st. bhagavan shree matt christman (PBUH).

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      I'm Catholic and while I'd quibble with some symbolism, it's entirely fine in the general vibes. people will take symbols and use them in their own circumstances, and communists who are Catholic will do the same. I do think the character should be kept non-violent though, since she's a child.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      2 months ago

      as a Catholic

      REPENT HERETIC! REPENT FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE DEMIURGE AND BE REBORN (START FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PLAYLIST) AS PART OF HIS HOLINESS ST. BHAGAVAN SHREE MATT CHRISTMAN'S (SWT) SACRED FLOCK

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