Pretty straightforward: where does the awareness that porn wrecks your mind and sexuality stops and where does simply conservatism towards sexuality begins (even in cases akin to bolshe morality)?
EDIT: okay, better clarifying it - i came across some video from some youtuber claiming that pornography is evil, period. and that there are things such as "metapornography", which could apply to someone in instagram posting videos of themselves in scant dressing and claiming likes of it. and that no-fap and anti-masturbation movements are good things.
i was really confused about that since that person came from apparently a progressive-yet-moralistic background. but talking to other people to see if some of my impressions checked, it came to my mind that it was a heavily directed video intended to attract left-leaning people to a conservative agenda. my bad.
"metapornography" is a term new to me.
I'd expect some sort of extra interesting sex education thing. But they're on about softcore porn or people looking attractive?
go figure. i felt confused about it and most people i've talked to says it's just some conservative bullshit wrapped in women enpowerment.
Bolshe morality? What in the samhill is that?
Porn wrecks your mind?
Porn stops your sexuality? Wtf.
The real question is do you recognize you're in some rabbit hole and that you shouldn't assume even your starting framework is agreed upon by most other people.
Edit: your edit only makes me wonder if you're satisfied with the algorithm funneling you to this sort of content and how your viewing habits reinforce it. Why wonder about people who think porn stunts their sexuality (still wtf?!?) when you can be watching literally anything else? Any idiot can post a YouTube video, doesn't mean you have to watch it.
Hmm, not familiar with the connection. I stumbled across it while roaming Wikipedia. Origins are unknown possible from "Samiel", the name of the Devil in some opera. Or Sam Hill, a man in the 1800s known for using such foul language that his own name became a swear. Imagine that. While most strive to leave their mark on the world by leaving something good behind or raising good kids or helping someone in a life-changing way or whatever, he left behind his own name as a swear.
Are you arguing gooners don't have a problem?
Many people become addicted to pornography and yes it can wreck your mind and regular sex drive/habits just as any addiction can.
Please don't put some ridiculous binary statement in my mouth. There's miles of distance between "porn wrecks your mind" and "excessive porn use can contribute to mental health and relationship issues".
Porn wrecks your mind?
Porn stops your sexuality? Wtf.
you shouldn't assume even your starting framework is agreed upon
Why wonder about people who think porn stunts their sexuality (still wtf?!?)
You mentioned it multiple times but the only things you said about these statements were harshly dismissive and didn't provide any sort of nuance so why would it be ridiculous for me to respond as if there wasn't nuance in your opinion? I don't know what's in your heart/mind, only what you say.
I didn't say you invent those phrases, I said that you harshly dismissed them with no recognition of the limited truth they hold, so why would you expect me to know you recognize the nuance?
How can I "put some ridiculous binary statement" in your mouth when I'm just reacting to the binary you already presented.
It like if someone says " all drugs are bad because they ruin your life".
and you say "wtf that's not true, drugs don't ruin your life" without mentioning that you're only talking about some drugs.
Obviously I'm going to point out that, no, drugs can ruin your life if you partake in them the wrong way, because drug addicts do have a problem and you dismissed it through ignoring it, even if that's not your intention. I can't know your hidden intentions, only what you post.
Conservatives: all glimpses of porn are automatically upgraded to ADDICTION.
Progressives: all porn actors are automatically upgraded to HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS.
you support ADDICTION and HUMAN TRAFFICKINGI think most people absorb a puritan idea of "removed" from society. Even like liberals, queer people, and sex nerds (people into kink) will have a version of this. For the right, it's usually a very misogynistic idea about how female sexuality and anything gay is evil. And this is usually what makes conservatives want to quit porn, though sometimes they won't admit it and they'll talk about like their essence or whatever.
So like you don't need to quite porn for the right reasons, you can just do it. But maybe spend some time thinking why you want to do it, and if it's because of some idea of removed or shame then you should also think about it you really want to hold those ideas, because they will ultimately make you just as miserable as the porn did.
To conservatives, any porn viewing is a "porn addiction." That's their line.
Porn addiction is not on that line, not even close.
