cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22506888
It's still two state solution support though.
Still, good to break from the US.
Two state is what the PLO and most Palestinian factions including Hamas want…for now.
Like Lenin said with the treaty of Versailles
The imperialists of France, Britain, etc., are trying to provoke and ensnare the German Communists: “Say that you will not sign the Treaty of Versailles!” they urge. Like babes, the Left Communists fall into the trap laid for them, instead of skilfully manoeuvring against the crafty and, at present, stronger enemy, and instead of telling him, “We shall sign the Treaty of Versailles now.”
Two state solution today. One state (Palestinian) tomorrow.
Similar was with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Germans delayed it while continuing offensive, and Trotsky played right into their hands while Lenin insisted on signing it immediately. Luckily Central Powers armies collapsed later which effectively annuled their entire gains, and the treaty was formally repealed in Rapallo in 1922.
Aye but the ALP don't want it "For now", they're just picking the centrist option. It's still good, don't get me wrong. But Labor's ability to stumble into sometimes being good should be noted as largely accidental. They're moderate fascists.
Just in time to be on the right side of history! Genocide avoided!
Though it is good to see the smallest defiance, finally.
They are coasting on not doing a Kamala, yes, but the ALP also know the US is going to veto it. Having a little bit of political knowhow is better than none, but they just lost Queensland to ghouls who are trying to unilaterally ban abortion.
Australian Labor's strategy right now is to wait for the Liberals to fuck up harder. The unions were striking in the middle of Sydney in a brilliant show of solidarity and Labor largely stood by and actually did very little. Considering they're a major party in the first place due to union support, waiting on Liberals to fail isn't a foolproof strategy.
Even now Libs are drumming up support and blaming the results of their own policies when they were in power on the current ALP and what the ALP has done is basically nothing.
but the ALP also know the US is going to veto it.
There is no veto for General Assembly votes, only Security Council votes. This becomes official UN policy if it passes. The issue with General Assembly votes is that there's no teeth in the organisation, there's no enforcement or consequences for not abiding by the votes, they're purely political in that regard. Except for a few things that is, Apartheid South Africa was successfully suspended from the UN entirely despite the US and British opposing it during the vote, so the General Assembly can be used to achieve things that affect the UN as an organisation if the will to do it can be found.
When I saw all the media ghouls posting about how the ALP needs to "learn from the Harris campaign's mistakes" I assumed they meant "they didn't go far enough to the right." Which, to be fair, was the gist of a lot of what I saw.
This is a pleasant surprise.
Don't have too much hope, remember Bill Shorten's fumble. Zionism doesn't have a death grip on Australia yet, and the LNP are truly uncharismatic. But Labor is perfectly capable of shooting themselves in the foot without outside interference. The ALP has gotten a lot worse since the days they used to play Solidarity Forever at party meetings.
This probably won't bite the ALP as hard in the next election since Zionism isn't as tied to Australia as much as the US or UK, so I think this is a smart move (even if doomed to fail due to US veto) but they really need to do more for the working class than pay lip service to (some) unions if they want to avoid what happened in QLD to repeat on the national scale.
Boy Boy/ididathing/FriendlyJordies can do what they can to influence the online zoomers/millennials but they actually need to address the working class proper if they want to go against Rupert Murdoch et al.
It's a fucking dire situation when your strongest leftists are three YouTubers
The leftists you hear about are youtubers because they're celebrities. There's stronger leftists offline
avoid what happened in QLD to repeat on the national scale
I wouldn't use Queensland as a barometer for the country, Labor were in power for ~29 of the last 34 years, while voting Liberal every election except 1990 and 2007
Meanwhile they also put a three out of four Greens in the lower house federally last election
Agree overall though, the 50 cent transport fares, school lunches etc. proposals were all very popular and saved Labor from a wipe out.
