Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.
Concentration of power with those "social services", making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.
Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.
China has tons of small and big businesses and it's still socialist.
"Bu-bu-but they're a bunch of [insert super racist remarks about Asian ppl]"
Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.
Tell me you don't understand what the word socialism means without telling me you don't understand what the word socialism means.
When you say "no room to make business." That's where I think the fundamental disagreement is rooted. Socialism is inherently built on the idea that what you are building in a capitalist system is exploiting labour. The people you bring in should have ownership of the company too in a socialist system, not the state. What you're describing is a communist dictatorship. State programs should be run by the state just as they are in most countries now. You certainly don't want companies running your government.
I had multiple times experiences like that with American redditors.
They would say that socialism is nazism because National Socialism.
So yeah, didn't know really what to answer to such level of ignorance.
"Learn how German Komposita work, you illiterate dipshit!" is a pretty straightforward and effective reply.
Bless the cold war brainwash with loads if patriotism on USA citizens. It seems to still be working.
Everything I like is socialist, trains? Socialist. Gardening? Socialist. Cooking a huge meal where someone else does the dishes? That's socialism.
I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a "right-wing extremist".
No, they're all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others' properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.
I already have the right to say my mind and it doesn't help my living situation at all, meanwhile right-wingers thankfully utilise their right to call for my death, the concentration of power is all in businesses which right-wingers consistently protect, and wtf does it mean to defend stable families?
Undoing all the tax, benefits, and public services I've ever had wouldn't get me out of poverty. Undoing the business and the non-worker class price gouging and manipulating of me and my family, and instead having a better incentive than profit, absolutely would.
Why would you come into a thread and enthusiastically declare yourself a dickhead weirdo
Why wouldn’t you come into a thread and enthusiastically declare yourself a dickhead weirdo
If a socialist calls you a dickhead, it means they're still trying to spare your feels.
Again, why would you say something like that in this thread/community/instance?
I'm not requesting you to answer. I'm requesting you to reconsider your approach to this scenario
Just to piss people off and get them to waste their time basically
I feel like this is a teaching opportunity. I'm no teacher, and certainly no academic, but socialism is a political stance that socializes basic needs, such as healthcare, transportation or education (primary and secondary). "Socialization" means every single citizen pays for those through the tax system, every year or so, proportionally to their own income. This allows everyone, regardless of their status, to enjoy good health, regular trains and buses, and a complete education, all without paying extra. It also prevents these basic amenities from falling into the wrong hands, ie those of capitalists who would gladly hike up prices, taking avantage of the fact that they're vital things. It is something to strive for. I hope I helped make this notion clearer. Cheers
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when the corporate conglomerate that owns their house demands they pay the propertytaxfee or else they go to private jail (it's not a state)
I guess it doesn't translate as well as I thought it would. I mean a response in good faith. French calls those first-degree, as opposed to sarcasm which would be second-degree
