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Comparing China to Russia is a new low even for an anarchist

also saying that whoever supports China also supports Russia is insane

and then anarchists cry and scream "leftists unity" fuck off

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  • Rom [he/him]
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    9 days ago

    they've literally banned trade unions

    Two seconds of googling and I found a Chinese law protecting trade unions, straight from an official Chinese government website http://en.npc.gov.cn.cdurl.cn/2021-12/24/c_791373.htm

    This Law is developed in accordance with the Constitution to guarantee the status of trade unions in the state's political, economic and social activities, define their rights and obligations, and ensure they play a role in socialist modernization.

    No investigation, no right to speak.

    • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 days ago

      China just does not allow independent trade unions, for good reason. Every socialist should remember Chile and Poland.

        • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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          9 days ago

          Poland is already covered. Regarding Chile: The trucker union there was one of the important pieces of the US to get rid of Alende.

          Independent unions in a socialist state make no sense. if they are idnependent of the proletarian state, then who are they working for? Hint: Not the proletarians.

          • s0ykaf [he/him]
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            9 days ago

            the largest copper miners union was also one of the first to strike against allende

        • NewOldGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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          9 days ago

          In Poland the ‘Solidarity’ independent trade union was run by reactionaries and was instrumental in overthrowing socialism

            • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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              8 days ago

              Through catholic church as middlemen and significant support on grounds. The same fucking pope who did this and then turned around and started to blab about "Catholic social teaching" (spoiler: it's class collaboration and modernised "ora et labora").

  • Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 days ago

    also saying that whoever supports China also supports Russia is insane

    To be fair, a lot of people supporting China critically support Russia as a temporary ally against US imperialism, but that is an important distinction (likely lost on libs though)

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    9 days ago

    Honestly this person just seems too ignorant for me to even call sectarian. I used to think along the same lines. This is just a radlib/infant leftist, who will either be recouperated or grow beyond this.

    • Ahri Boy 🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 days ago

      Both r/trans and r/traaaaaa..nnns2 were shitlib in nature, one of r/trans mods was supporting genocide. Trans people opposing genocide in either of the subs were banned or at risk of being banned from the sub.

  • Munrock ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 days ago

    Why do I keep hearing that trade unions are banned in China? The unions have guaranteed seats in the National People's Congress and they're somehow banned?

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      9 days ago

      Maybe they banned a specific trade union (like an AFL-CIA Affiliated one) and that's been bumped up to "ban all trade unions"? Idk why I'm speculating

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        9 days ago

        Honestly, at this point the western media doesn't even bother to find a grain of truth to surround with their bullshit. Wouldn't surprise me if they made this one up whole-cloth assuming their loyal readers wouldn't ever check it.

  • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 days ago

    Love how everything they wrote is just wrong. Russia isn't a dictatorship (at least not in the liberal sense. of course it's a dictatorship of the bourgoisie), China doesn't ban trade unions and the DPRK is not a monarchy (anyone who claims that doesn't know what monarchy even means, which is just embarrassing).

  • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 days ago

    OP doesn't understand because they are heavily misinformed. Russia isn't a dictatorship, China isn't capitalist, and the DPRK is not a monarchy. The first step is to understand the real nature of things as they are outside of the fairy tales of western imperialist propaganda. Until then it's like talking to a child.

    • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]
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      8 days ago

      I agree ,russia is a dictatorship in the sense that it's a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie but from the libreal view of things, it is not ,Russia's leadership has more support than America and I bet you this person thinks America is a democracy

      Also china is the most democratic state in the world,let western losers seethe

      Drpk is not a monarchy no matter how much state propaganda says it is, The Kim Family just has popular support

      Is America a monarchy cause of families like the bushes and Clinton's

      Westerners are dumb

      • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 days ago

        russia is a dictatorship in the sense that it's a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

        Of course, that goes without saying. But when responding to liberals you kind of have to play along with the liberal definitions of words else it's like trying to explain chess to a pigeon.

  • Large Bullfrog@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 days ago

    Yeah, why should I, a far-leftist, support Russia, China and the DPRK when I could support...errr...well, I'm sure anarchism will succeed soon in the US, any day now, surely.