No commentary here. I just think we should find more comrades and bring them into our fold. How do we do it? Post your ideas, no matter how wild. Maybe someone will see it and get inspired and make something happen.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 hours ago

    This isn't entirely true. The trans and vegan comms are definitely operating as independent communities, anime fluctuates back and forth a bit, it's sort of almost on the edge of being useful as its own thing but isn't quite.

    So there's certainly potential for independent communities within the space.

    There is a "fight for the frontpage". Every user is either trying to get on to the frontpage or bullying people for making posts they don't want to see on the frontpage.

    Genuinely haven't seen this at all.

    Limit the frontpage to 5-10 "official" comms and hide every other comm from the front page. Hide badposting, fakenews, gossip, slop, etc. People who think fakenews is funny can still browse the comm and nobody gets angry about being tricked.

    This will be completely counterproductive to what you want to achieve. You will completely marginalise the exposure of small comms to larger numbers of people, and in doing so you will eliminate the ability for those small comms to grow. Communities grow by being seen by people that might have an interest in them, this requires their exposure.

    Allow users to make niche comms which do not show up on the front page.

    I think this is fine. Let the "market" make any manner of comms and let the ones people are interested in rise to the top. Switch from digital central-planning of comms to digital dengism. HEXBEAR REFORM AND OPENING UP.

    It won't be an issue to police anything that is harmful.

    This also would solve the problem of the confusion of which comm posts should be made on. The current way of thinking is that posts should be posted to specific boards based on the assigned topic of the sub board. When people are fighting for the frontpage, they don't put much thought into which board a post is made on because the audience is all the same. If most boards are hidden from the front page, people will choose which board to post a link on depending on which group of people they think will want to see the post.

    I really want Lemmy to consider more stylisation of comms as a feature. Individual stylisation of subreddits enables more unique and individual communities. It also makes it MUCH more obvious to a user when they're in a different space and should abide by different behavioural norms to the wider site rather than just being a belligerent aggressive chapo in any and all spaces(i am guilty of this).

    • dead [he/him]
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      2 hours ago

      There is a "fight for the frontpage". Every user is either trying to get on to the frontpage or bullying people for making posts they don't want to see on the frontpage.

      Genuinely haven't seen this at all.

      I gave examples. I post in the videos comm and people comment that they didn't watch the video and that people shouldn't watch videos. I post in the games comm and people post that they don't play games and that people shouldn't play video games. I post in the music comm and people comment that they don't listen to music and that people shouldn't listen to music.

      "Fight for the front page" is an observed behavior based on the fact that posts die if they are not visible on the front page. One of the reasons that the megathreads even exist is because people were upset about their posts not having visibility. You can observe the behavior yourself on your posts. In my experience if a post doesn't get at least 1 comment and 10 upvotes per hour, then it will die within the next hour. If a post gets 40 upvotes in 4 hours and then the next hour does not get any, it will remain at 40 forever.

      Look at the front page at any given moment and it's littered low effort attention seeking posts like badposting. The algorithm shows posts with the most active comment sections on the active page, which is why struggle sessions always show up highest. Engagement bait gets the most comments.

      You mentioned that the trans comm is active and I mentioned that the boards with megathreads do have their own confined subcommunity. The trans comm has 40 posts in the last month. The badposting comm has 140 posts in the last week. So the badposting (spam) comm has 15 times the posting rate as the trans comm. This is because the trans comm is confined to a megathread. The trans comm is a good board. The badposting comm is spam and attention seeking. So why is the good board confined but the spam board is unlimited? It should be the other way around. The trans comm should have the higher post rate than the spam comm. Good comms should be encouraged to have more posts.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 hours ago

        I gave examples. I post in the videos comm and people comment that they didn't watch the video and that people shouldn't watch videos.

        These aren't fighting for the front page though. Especially as this behaviour actively bumps up a thread even higher up.

        The trans comm is a good board. The badposting comm is spam and attention seeking. So why is the good board confined but the spam board is unlimited? It should be the other way around. The trans comm should have the higher post rate than the spam comm. Good comms should be encouraged to have more posts.

        Is this confinement? I don't think it is? Mega thread is a cultural thing that people enjoy, they're not posting in the megathread, they're commenting in it. Removing a megathread does not mean you get more posts. It means you just remove the space where a group of power commenters enjoy commenting. I saw this first hand when I killed the megathreads in r/gamingcirclejerk.