Depending on how the next four years go I'm on the fence between Bush Jr. and Trump but I'd like to hear from you

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    lol trump is bad but not like Andrew Jackaon bad.

    Probably

    1. Andrew Jackson - Crimes against native people
    2. Andrew Johnson - Fucked up reconstruction
    3. Ronald Reagan - Trickle down economics
    4. 45/47 🤮 - We all know why...
    5. Richard Nixon - The Infamous Crook

    Might have some memory gaps, but these are what I can remember from the top of my head.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      10 hours ago

      If you think Trump is worse than no-oil you're telling everybody that you think norms are more important than a million dead brown people

    • reaper_cushions [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 hours ago

      Y’know, Nixon was also ultimately responsible for the extensive bombing of Cambodia and the extension of the Vietnam war, both of which killed millions (the former by laying the ground work for the rise of the Khmer Rouge) BUT the important part was that he spied in Democrats! Not to defend Trump, he’s a vile removed that would serve the world best as fertiliser, but his legacy doesn’t even remotely hold a candle to the likes of Nixon, Dubya, Truman/Eisenhower etc.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      8 hours ago

      Woodrow Wilson? He’s the founder of modern US imperialism and a part of the reason most people are on this site due to the legacy of US imperialism.

    • P_P@lemm.ee
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      Don't forget that the SCOTUS appointed by 47 ended the American experiment since Presidents are now effectively kings. Thanks to Presidential immunity, we no longer get to say nobody is above the law.

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        By this analogy, where does Biden, the American Paul von Hindenburg, land? Like obviously it's worse to actually abolish democracy, but surely working with those doing it and doing nothing to stop them is also evil?

        E: As a disclaimer about my political views, I believe that Trump and every other US president should be executed for crimes against humanity.

        • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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          He's more like Hindenburg if he lived to 1945. And still have few months left to start WW3 which he apparently tries to do and reach the title of The Worst Human That Ever Lived.

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 hours ago

        Elected Temporary Dictator with small restrictions.

        They still have to get rid of elections to make thing permanent, and time will tell if they actually managed to do so.

        The federal government doesn't run elections, states do. Whether or not states decide to resist the tyranny of the federal government will decide if we will have legitimate elections.

        Swing States do not all have a republican trifecta.

        Also remember there are non-maga republicans, like Brad Raffensperger.

        And president does not yet have unlimited power, only immunity from breaking laws. The president still have to find those yes-men to do their bidding.

        He cant just say "Kill all Democrats" on day one. That aint happening. The military isnt maga yet.

        It takes time to purge the military. Not every non-maga military member is gonna announce their beliefs. You cant find them all and purge them all in 4 years. Hitler already had a majority of loyalists in the military when he became chancellor. trump does not. Not yet.

        When the federal government becones tyrannical, states can declare federal actions unconstitutional and use their state national guards. Then our country's fate is up to the military and national guards.

        The US can totally become a dictatorship forever if we don't change course, but there is still time to reverse course.