It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren't attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we'll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

  • imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Pretty sure it's going to just be like 12 of us. If the third party app thing on reddit didn't drive users here, unfortunately I don't think anything else will. At this point if you are already content with the reddit app it's going to be a hard sell to say, yeah come check out Lemmy, it's like reddit but if you have a question about your sick betta fish instead of getting a helpful answer in a few minutes, you need to first create a betta fish community, then go back on reddit and recruit users to your Lemmy community. Post content on it daily to maintain interest, and then, if you are really lucky, ask your question and wait a few months and maybe if your fish is still alive (doubtful), you might get a response, but it will probably be just be an anticapitalist shit-post. I'm sorry to say it is this way, but this be the way that it is.

    • Venus [she/her]
      ·
      1 year ago

      Pretty sure it's going to just be like 12 of us

      Hexbear has been very active for 3 years before we even federated. There's plenty of room for growth. We're not going to become reddit (and that's a good thing) but acting like it's just going to die (or is already dead) is just ridiculous

      • imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Hexbear has become a cesspool. Not exactly a great example to aspire to. I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to. Im just disappointed that it seems much more likely that Lemmy fizzles than soars. I can't emphasize enough how big and bad a deal the stripping of third party API access to reddit data is. I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver. Not sure if you are old enough to remember when high quality RSS feeds were a thing, but this direct access to data that users could custom curate was amazing. When you take control of how users consent data, you start to take control of the users. Lemmy has immense potential and at face value people are largely fed up with being manipulated and taken advantage of by internet giants, but most are clearly not fed up enough to leave their comfort zone. Spez and the others are well aware of this and happy to take advantage. It takes a ton of effort to keep something like Lemmy afloat. Just like a new restaurant, if after a few months it's not taking off, it's pretty unlikely to do so with more time. I hope I'm wrong, but the Spez nonsense was a huge gift to growing Lemmy, and in the grand scheme of things the effect was quite small.

        • Venus [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Hexbear has become a cesspool

          Hexbear is an aggressively inclusive space full of thoughtful people who are passionate about making the world a better place and educating their fellow man. If every online space were more like hexbear we'd all be much better off

          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to

          Oh yeah back in the good old days of /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots and /r/sexwithdogs

          • LoopingRiver@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Lol.. so inclusive wanting to bring down America, listing out a bunch of people you’d love to get rid of (anyone you consider bourgeoise), unyielding fanboying of China…

            I think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated. I also think seeing the propaganda posts constantly hitting the All feed will drive people away. Are there even any non-political hexbear communities? All I ever see are anti-is and pro-China posts.

            I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

            • Venus [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Everything is political. We have comms that we don't consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it's not a liberal comm you would consider it political.

              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China

              You're literally professing your support for trans rights and simping for the US in one comment so you must be mega confused

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
              ·
              1 year ago

              so inclusive wanting to bring down America

              Yes. America is the pre-eminent fascist violence force on Earth and must be brought down for the good of humanity

              • atomicfox@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                Not having America around to keep Russia and China in check sounds great for humanity 👍

                • Flaps [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Damn you really kept them in check when you bombed Iraq back to the stone age

                  You also really kept China in check when you moved your entire industrial capacity there

                • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  "What if they invaded, pillaged, and coup'd the countries WE were going to invade, pillage, and coup! Can you imagine the tragedy?! Better that us, The Good Guys, exploit these countries than The Bad Guys!"

            • eatmyass
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              1 year ago

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            • Annakah69 [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              If you can't wrap your head around being trans and supporting China you need to stop consuming MSM and examine your assumptions.

            • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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              edit-2
              1 year ago

              I live in the US and it's pretty bad for LGBT people here. I don't feel the need to cheerlead US interventions because they have a coat of rainbow paint.

            • silent_water [she/her]
              ·
              1 year ago

              think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated.

              sicko-hexbear

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              so inclusive wanting to bring down America

              Paradox of tolerance, babyyy

              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China.

              Cuba supports both

        • eatmyass
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          edit-2
          1 year ago

          deleted by creator

        • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          It's less of a cesspool than every other lemmy instance I've visited which is filled with Reddit-tier libs

        • Grebgreb [he/him, they/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day

          reddit back in the day had a huge jailbait sub

          Hexbear has become a cesspool

          lol

          • WhyIsItReal [he/him]
            ·
            1 year ago

            i mean, yeah. if you insult someone, they’ll typically defend themselves

            • GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              You think collectively antagonizing, using "libs" in a derogatory form and calling others "imperialist running dogs" constitutes as defense and not toxic behavior?

                • GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  So as long as they don't ideologically agree with you it's acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their "wrong ideology" makes them toxic?

                  Are you also aware that most of the proletariats unknowingly uphold capitalism? Considering you say they're toxic are you against the proletariat or are you a fake socialist trying to create a class divide, the ones who agree with you and the ones who don't, within the proletariat?

                  • silent_water [she/her]
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    if you asked questions in good faith, you'd know that the community is also aggressively welcoming to such people, even when we disagree. but you don't so you won't.

                  • SmokinStalin [comrade/them]
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Those are good questions that you could get good honest answers to if you wanted. Other hexbearians are much more articulate than me.

                    We are aggressively welcoming to anyone who's genuinely just trying to learn. stalin-approval

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    So as long as they don't ideologically agree with you it's acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their "wrong ideology" makes them toxic?

                    Think about this in the context of, idk, race science or something. Let's say you have someone who is openly a big fan of Charles Murray, owns a copy of The Bellcurve, gets the whole nine yards. Would you deny that such a person is necessarily toxic?

            • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              "insult" sure.

              He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

              What's funny about hexbear is the users reflexively rise to the fight every single time, they can't just scroll past.

              Taiwan #1

              • silent_water [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                yes, it's on purpose - we actively discourage lurking and encourage engaging with bad takes. the more you complain about it, the harder we go at it.

                • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  "bad take" really depends what side of the echo chamber you are on.

                  Y'all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

                  Also we aren't in hexbear right now

                  • silent_water [she/her]
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                    1 year ago

                    obviously whether a take is bad or not depends on your politics. it's so obvious I'm surprised you'd bother pointing it out.

                    Y'all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

                    this isn't criticism. it's just a snide aside.

                    Also we aren't in hexbear right now

                    again, obviously.

                  • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    We are in a Federated instance. So we can participate, as long we follow Da rulez.

                    But you miss your reddit-logo echochamber, don't you?

                    xi-lib-tears

              • WhyIsItReal [he/him]
                ·
                1 year ago

                you’re saying calling something a “cesspool” isn’t insulting?

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                "insult" sure.

                He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

                Wonder how the porcupine got its spikes . . . Must be its authoritarian personality!

        • HornyOnMain🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day.

          A libertarian infested hell site that was most well known for just being 4chan lite and actively harbouring pedo communities?

    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de
      hexagon
      ·
      1 year ago

      12 of us

      I'm fine with 12 of us if everyone is active.

      Hopefully by then we'll have a few active communities and not hundreds of ghost towns like now

    • mars [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Long time hexbear user, I've actually had pretty good luck getting input on non-political questions. No sick fish, but I've asked quite a variety of questions and gotten help. Maybe I would have gotten a higher quality answer on Reddit, but my experience with modern reddit (last 6ish years) has been hit or miss. Reminds me in a way of the forums I used back in the really 2000s. Even though the forums I was on were primarily oriented around tabletop gaming, the "general/off-topic" sections would have quite a variety of people and interests. And those people, since they all had a common interest, were far more talkative and generous with their time than what I've experienced in Reddit. IMO this makes up for the smaller population. Hexbear has that vibe for me, just with a non-sectarian socialist shitposting focus. Which works for me.