It's still important that she's right about reddit being a dumpster, but I'm not at all surprised that she doesn't quite get it. AFAIK, it has it's appeals for someone who the internet was always around. Like there is a generational gap still, of users who jumped onto platforms at their infancy and kept at it, and those who casually use it for a week or two and then just bounce off forever. I have been on twitter and reddit and facebook forever, and changes here and there have bounced me off their services.
AFAIK, we can say she's terminally OFFline. But there are many of us who've been at this from the start, or who started from these online services, so she's either completely correct in her assessment or horribly misinformed, but I'm of the mind that it has to be a combination of offline, and online work in order to get ANYWHERE. And it's not hard, the online right does it rather simply, the only problem is that it's always on some sort of privately owned website and admins often time dont want that kind of trouble showing up (and it's always trouble from the left, funny that..).
I dont find a lot of left online activism that effective because i'm older and i expect the work to come from offline INTO online, not the other way around. I dont know what a breakaway site like this can accomplish just yet, i just know I'm likely not going to lead it. It will have my support though.
The most I've ever seen the sub as was like an employee breakroom where it was safe to trash talk the bosses, and sometimes it's really nice to have that spot to vent and not be horribly misjudged for it.
I agree, and I don't think many of the users there thought of it as activism as well; that was never the purpose of the sub, most people were aware of that. It was still important in many unique ways because it was a massive media hub/news aggregate that filtered everything through a big-tent leftist lens, stayed perpetually relevant, and fostered and cultivated a very unique emergent culture. No other community on the internet was like that, nothing ticked all of those boxes. You either had to grit your teeth through chuds, or deal with a small and selective group of one particular tendency. The closest thing in terms of a media hub with a leftist filter was maybe r/latestagecapitalism, but it wasn't that far left, and the attitude was what was most important - LSC's culture is just angry and depressed, moral outrage, and is mostly surface-level anticapitalists. r/CTH did have an undergirding of outrage but with solidarity, or sharing something funny to cope, and an irreverent culture that you saw nowhere else which allowed leftists to feel like they had a space they could let loose and know they won't get chud backlash. And this website so far is inheriting that unique culture, so I'm glad to see it didn't die.
It's still important that she's right about reddit being a dumpster, but I'm not at all surprised that she doesn't quite get it. AFAIK, it has it's appeals for someone who the internet was always around. Like there is a generational gap still, of users who jumped onto platforms at their infancy and kept at it, and those who casually use it for a week or two and then just bounce off forever. I have been on twitter and reddit and facebook forever, and changes here and there have bounced me off their services.
AFAIK, we can say she's terminally OFFline. But there are many of us who've been at this from the start, or who started from these online services, so she's either completely correct in her assessment or horribly misinformed, but I'm of the mind that it has to be a combination of offline, and online work in order to get ANYWHERE. And it's not hard, the online right does it rather simply, the only problem is that it's always on some sort of privately owned website and admins often time dont want that kind of trouble showing up (and it's always trouble from the left, funny that..).
I dont find a lot of left online activism that effective because i'm older and i expect the work to come from offline INTO online, not the other way around. I dont know what a breakaway site like this can accomplish just yet, i just know I'm likely not going to lead it. It will have my support though.
The most I've ever seen the sub as was like an employee breakroom where it was safe to trash talk the bosses, and sometimes it's really nice to have that spot to vent and not be horribly misjudged for it.
I agree, and I don't think many of the users there thought of it as activism as well; that was never the purpose of the sub, most people were aware of that. It was still important in many unique ways because it was a massive media hub/news aggregate that filtered everything through a big-tent leftist lens, stayed perpetually relevant, and fostered and cultivated a very unique emergent culture. No other community on the internet was like that, nothing ticked all of those boxes. You either had to grit your teeth through chuds, or deal with a small and selective group of one particular tendency. The closest thing in terms of a media hub with a leftist filter was maybe r/latestagecapitalism, but it wasn't that far left, and the attitude was what was most important - LSC's culture is just angry and depressed, moral outrage, and is mostly surface-level anticapitalists. r/CTH did have an undergirding of outrage but with solidarity, or sharing something funny to cope, and an irreverent culture that you saw nowhere else which allowed leftists to feel like they had a space they could let loose and know they won't get chud backlash. And this website so far is inheriting that unique culture, so I'm glad to see it didn't die.