I think that's implied in either scenario my point is that something will arise out of that chaos and what emerges is entirely dependent on whether we can fight off the fascists.
no, they mean a collapse of Rome situation where nothing significant emerges for hundreds of years. given climate change, it's not a small possibility, and it's probably the most likely if we fail to secure some form of socialism in the years after the initial collapse of the state and reaction takes hold.
There’s also a third outcome of just total chaos
I think that's implied in either scenario my point is that something will arise out of that chaos and what emerges is entirely dependent on whether we can fight off the fascists.
no, they mean a collapse of Rome situation where nothing significant emerges for hundreds of years. given climate change, it's not a small possibility, and it's probably the most likely if we fail to secure some form of socialism in the years after the initial collapse of the state and reaction takes hold.
That's pretty much what I was saying.