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He is very incorrect

This to me encapsulates the American "progressive" liberals illiteracy regarding politics and they're inability to recognise that other countries however adjacent in the imperial core just do not operate in the same wacky way US politics does.

Hearing someone so embarrassingly mischaracterise several UK cities with a rich political history down to "nooaaww the inner cities aaaarrrr liberull but the suburbs are conservative" and then just misrepresent or flatly get wrong the political landscape currently is just wild given his confidence.

My dude the incredibly down trodden satellite housing to a large city you keep circling back to is not rich and conservative you fucking dolt.

Progressivism = china town and liberalism

That's it, that was his whole spiel was

"this city is progressive, i mean they have china town.... liberalism"

THATS IT!!

This is someone thinks they are a socialist and knows what privatisation is but their understanding of even liberalism is "liberalism = progressive social justice" so like lmao.

And before anyone shakes their torches at me, this dudes is literally mansplaining this to this disinterested women about a country he isn't from, about policies he doesn't understand.

Wine cellar liberal thinking he can problem shoot a system he's not involved in or aware of.

Wild. My family should have never left Cork.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    18 hours ago

    can confirm. traveled a little in the UK and 90% of other Americans I met were wealthy psychos. which, makes sense because working class people in the states don't really make enough anymore to travel overseas. I went with retired family who covered hotels and helped with other costs. I've traveled in a lot of US national parks and would always meet people from the UK, IE, western Europe and they would have normal ass jobs like "teacher" and they took international trips each year. I found it instructive about the material distinction between our similar systems, because the chances of finding a teacher who can afford a trip across the Atlantic instead of of having to find a second job for the summer to make rent is low.

    one couple I met in a ferry ride up around Orkney seemed ok. we were all shit-tier low level university employees going through rounds of austerity cuts, so we complained about the neoliberalization of higher education without using the theory words. they had saved up for a long time for the trip and had wanted to go for years.

    but one guy was the most burger brained asshole. retirement aged, white, bourgeoisie, from Nebraska--a hinterland managed entirely for mechanized agricultural extraction and concentrated animal feeding operations--and he had the loudest nuclear takes. in one breath he would say the monarchy and its demand for new yachts is great because it creates jobs. in the next he would say the NHS is slavery. I remember the tour bus driver having the most powerfully blank look on his face about it.

    I wanted to choke him out and dump him in the north sea, but I don't know if that would be ecologically OK.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      17 hours ago

      "Wealthy psycho" the correct way of describing them. 99% of the time it's retirees or they "own their owns business" and it's like sure.... move Yankee there's a queue forming!!

      Yes sadly while throwing electric car batteries in the oceans for the electric eels is both fun and environmentally conscious, i request no Americans in our rough and tumble puddle.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      17 hours ago

      I wanted to choke him out and dump him in the north sea, but I don't know if that would be ecologically OK.

      The crabs are hungry

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        17 hours ago

        They are. And the UK government is spooked because the crabs are Chinese!

        (This is actually true. For the last couple of years there's been signs all over several stretches of coast warning about scary Chinese flag-covered crabs with a line and exclamation point through them. There's been an uptick in mitten crabs, which are an invasive species and could actually be pretty bad for local biodiversity, but the signs are a bit much.)

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      16 hours ago

      the monarchy and its demand for new yachts is great because it creates jobs

      monarchy but just for yacht-based keynesianism chefs-kiss