dude i fucking hate them, every time i see jack ma's face on my timeline i want to set that deformed fetus face on fire in front of his children

we think it's a fucking tragedy that china needs a system that allows these disgusting people to exist. it leaves any dignified person with a bad taste in their mouth every time one of these maggots takes a breath.

but assuming that the chinese have to allow them to breathe, which we think just happens to be the case, then what the fuck are they supposed to do? reject reality? act emotionally and risk destroying what they've built?

there will be a time to put these people on the wall, and by god i wish i'm alive then, if only to watch and cheer at every instance of liberals crying over the "genocide". but that time isn't here yet. it just isn't.

regardless of whether you believe in the CPC or not, if they're actual marxists they won't do it right now, unless they go full stupid. and judging by the last 40 years they ain't going fucking stupid.

so for god's sake, argue about the CPC, but over something valid, like how you think they're doing wrong with their MMT, or how they're not doing enough for workers in the tech industry, or how underwhelming their health care system is. but quit the "dwah china has rich people" shit, it's void of meaning¹ :hexbear-shining:

¹ unless you're not a marxist, in that case i completely understand. but marxists aren't supposed to think reality bends to our will, we're supposed to be materialists not idealists

  • Hungover [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    ² it’s so weird to me that some self-styled marxists are fine with the idea of a dictatorship of the proletariat for the transition from socialism to communism, but not for the transition from capitalism to socialism - it’s all part of a historical process, and the steps we must take are supposed to be based on our actual material starting point, not our wishes

    What? The dictatorship of the proletariat is the rule of the working class as majority over the minority of the expropriated capitalist class to transition from a bourgeois society to a classless society.

    from socialism to communism

    I really have no idea what that means, since Marx didn't really distinguish between socialism and communism and used it more interchangeably, except to refer to other (non-communist) socialist tendencies.

    Lenin was who did that, by saying "socialism leads into communism", as he understood the lower phase of communism to be "socialism" and the higher phase as "communism", conflating the terminology a bit, but still under a Marxist account. The point is, that Marx distinguished in his Critique of the Gotha program between the lower phase of communism (socialism for Lenin), which still has material incentives to work (but no capital!) and the higher phase of communism, which has free access (think post-scarcity).

    The goal of the dictatorship of the proletariat is to transition to this first phase of communism, any Marxist should agree with that (from capitalism to socialism).

    Side note: This is also why it frustrates me when I see people referring to the USSR / PRC / Vietnam / Cuba etc. as "socialist" rather than "a dictatorship of the proletariat", since there is / was still capital and class in these societies.