WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s top court has ruled that a law allowing abortion of fetuses with congenital defects is unconstitutional. The decision by the country's Constitutional Court on...
What a fucking shithole fucking country I fucking live in
Let's go to the extreme, you want the BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. Literal nazi shit.
Should the government step in and say whoa, that's racist, so we are going to force you to carry a baby to term? WHY? Who does that help at all?
Real eugenics is a social policy, usually forced on minorities or vulnerable groups by a government. But everyone has the right to do "eugenics" on their own womb. I might think they're dumb as dog shit, but there's no fucking way I'm gonna let that turn me into an anti-abortion freak.
What about selecting for IQ? What about aborting a EMBRYO with Down’s?
This isn't up to the cops.
But I heard arguments, where a person will advocate for abortion but then advocate against personal choice when that choice is to choose an embryo with a specific trait.
Yes, that's stupid as fuck.
for wanting their children to have a better life
I said blue eye selection is dumb as dog shit, not height or whatever.
If you're enough of a nerd to select for height or whatever, and you had 3 abortions when the first 3 turned out to be short kings and queens, I still can't force you to abort the tall one.
Genetic engineering is a whole different ball game, by the way, and if you have a baby with uh, telekenesis or whatever, there's an argument for sterilizing them and giving them free unlimited en vitro therapy where we edit the modified genes of their kids back to normal. Imagine Nazis except their superiority basically isn't even delusional.
Because, you dumbass, only the rich will have access to it either way. Artificial insemination alone costs like a grand a pop in this country numbnuts, you think that physical access is the only thing that would make this hard? You complete idiot. Why don't we fucking get rid of capital gains taxes completely, so that the poor can gain endless wealth from the stock market, same as the rich? Fucking moron.
Hey since I'm in a jungle that means I can feast on all that sweet predator meat! Since physical access is the only impediment to anything! Just gotta fix the healthcare system in America by building more hospitals! You complete fucking imbecile, you weirdly combative rube
It's kind of hard to tell if you're more ignorant of science, economics or history right now but you sure are holding onto some very silly ideas very angrily.
Now, as for a detailed breakdown of why you're being such a silly sausage.
For starters, the technology to edit DNA to the extent you can code it for beneficial attributes is a bit like cold fusion. We're being told it's round the corner but we've been told that for decades now. It turns out that this genetic engineering stuff is hard work. Hell, it's increasingly likely the planet will be a largely inhospitable hellhole due to climate change before it's developed and can be realistically applied in any meaningful way.
Secondly, no restrictions on it won't help poor people get ahead. Quite the opposite. No restrictions means that the rich are going to be able to use this technology to give themselves even greater advantages over the rest of us than they already have. Do you want Bezos' spawn to have an extra three decades of potential lifespan? An extra five decades? Yeah, no thanks.
Thirdly, name me a single instance in history where putting no restrictions on the development and practise of emerging technology like this has benefited the poor over the rich. I mean you are sort of right in that placing no restrictions on its development and sale will certainly benefit the middle classes but I'm not looking forward to my landlord's kids getting a genetic as well as a social and capital advantage over mine thanks a lot mate.
I mean if you need another argument how about the ethics of developing this designer baby tech. You are gonna need to create human babies for this and some of the experiments and early, pioneering products are going to go wrong; that's unavoidable. I dunno if I can stomach the idea of having to scrap batch 23 of newborn babies cos they were born with their skin inside out or whatever just so I get to pick if my kid has black hair or brown eyes or whatever the fuck.
Now chill out cos you're making yourself look like a tit.
You seem a tad tetchy there, in fact you seem to have clean forgotten to address any of the very valid reasons I pointed out there about why your idea is a bit daft.
Go away, have a cup of tea and come back to it maybe?
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wow I'm sure nobody will notice that you cleverly built in that fetuses are people here, you got us dude
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Its not eugenics to be like, damn, can my child have skin? can I have one with skin?
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You want parents to bring a person into the world knowing they they are destined for a horrible early death?
Just cause you think a fetus is a person. Fuck off.
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Let's go to the extreme, you want the BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. Literal nazi shit.
Should the government step in and say whoa, that's racist, so we are going to force you to carry a baby to term? WHY? Who does that help at all?
Real eugenics is a social policy, usually forced on minorities or vulnerable groups by a government. But everyone has the right to do "eugenics" on their own womb. I might think they're dumb as dog shit, but there's no fucking way I'm gonna let that turn me into an anti-abortion freak.
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This isn't up to the cops.
Yes, that's stupid as fuck.
I said blue eye selection is dumb as dog shit, not height or whatever.
If you're enough of a nerd to select for height or whatever, and you had 3 abortions when the first 3 turned out to be short kings and queens, I still can't force you to abort the tall one.
Genetic engineering is a whole different ball game, by the way, and if you have a baby with uh, telekenesis or whatever, there's an argument for sterilizing them and giving them free unlimited en vitro therapy where we edit the modified genes of their kids back to normal. Imagine Nazis except their superiority basically isn't even delusional.
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Gathering up disabled people and gassing them =/= aborting before it starts to save the parents and child from a life of debt and struggle.
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:squidward-nochill:
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le epic woosh
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Yeah, I'm sure that putting no restrictions on fucking around with designer babies will totally help the poor you moron
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Because, you dumbass, only the rich will have access to it either way. Artificial insemination alone costs like a grand a pop in this country numbnuts, you think that physical access is the only thing that would make this hard? You complete idiot. Why don't we fucking get rid of capital gains taxes completely, so that the poor can gain endless wealth from the stock market, same as the rich? Fucking moron.
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Hey since I'm in a jungle that means I can feast on all that sweet predator meat! Since physical access is the only impediment to anything! Just gotta fix the healthcare system in America by building more hospitals! You complete fucking imbecile, you weirdly combative rube
It's kind of hard to tell if you're more ignorant of science, economics or history right now but you sure are holding onto some very silly ideas very angrily.
Now, as for a detailed breakdown of why you're being such a silly sausage.
For starters, the technology to edit DNA to the extent you can code it for beneficial attributes is a bit like cold fusion. We're being told it's round the corner but we've been told that for decades now. It turns out that this genetic engineering stuff is hard work. Hell, it's increasingly likely the planet will be a largely inhospitable hellhole due to climate change before it's developed and can be realistically applied in any meaningful way.
Secondly, no restrictions on it won't help poor people get ahead. Quite the opposite. No restrictions means that the rich are going to be able to use this technology to give themselves even greater advantages over the rest of us than they already have. Do you want Bezos' spawn to have an extra three decades of potential lifespan? An extra five decades? Yeah, no thanks.
Thirdly, name me a single instance in history where putting no restrictions on the development and practise of emerging technology like this has benefited the poor over the rich. I mean you are sort of right in that placing no restrictions on its development and sale will certainly benefit the middle classes but I'm not looking forward to my landlord's kids getting a genetic as well as a social and capital advantage over mine thanks a lot mate.
I mean if you need another argument how about the ethics of developing this designer baby tech. You are gonna need to create human babies for this and some of the experiments and early, pioneering products are going to go wrong; that's unavoidable. I dunno if I can stomach the idea of having to scrap batch 23 of newborn babies cos they were born with their skin inside out or whatever just so I get to pick if my kid has black hair or brown eyes or whatever the fuck.
Now chill out cos you're making yourself look like a tit.
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You seem a tad tetchy there, in fact you seem to have clean forgotten to address any of the very valid reasons I pointed out there about why your idea is a bit daft.
Go away, have a cup of tea and come back to it maybe?