Norm is stubborn and unapologetic to a fault, sometimes doing himself and his message no favors. I remember he was on intercepted and scahill riffed a light joke on something norm said, and he just took whatever glib attempt at humor so poorly.

I think he does great work and I don’t ultimately think he did anything wrong or should have done anything different, but it is... unsurprising how he has been treated by academia.