i like that the op ignore the mass protests in bolivia, the class between the MAS supporters and the military, the arming of the protesters, that MAS is an actual labour party that actually cares about is people, and most importantly MAS organized the protests instead of denouncing them, link

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    The American left has gone from "Vote for Biden as the lesser evil" to "Vote for Biden to change things for the better" really fucking fast. It's pathetic. This is why I distrust any kind of "poll" that claims young people are turning to socialism in America. I'm so fucking pissed that the entire basic-ass socdem Bernie movement was immediately hijacked by a few self-serving asshole grifters looking for a cushy job at the DNC.

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      Even their analysis is off though

      Biden isn't even the lesser evil Trump is .

      Biden is the more effective evil and the bourgeoisie don't like Trumps chaos and destabilisation of the 2 party bipartisanship and how he doesn't bother to couch US's blatant violent imperialism in rosey rhetoric ("What? You think we don't kill people?" - "We're staying in Syria for the oil").

      If you were a principled socialist and you were forced to vote for either the Republicrats or Demicans - you would vote Trump as he discredits bourgeois democracy, is incompetant in foreign policy and is too ADHD riddled to sit through proper CIA reports. All of this helps nations that are directly under threat of US imperialism whilst it helps the workers movements in nations "allied" (read: hostages) to the US by discrediting US as an ally.

      If the idea of voting for Trump disgusts you....Why would you vote for Biden? You should be voting for PSL who are being politically persecuted. But yeah... Communists in the 1920s didn't come up with the concept "Social-Fascism" because SuccDems aren't fucking traitors at every turn they get

      Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.

      J V Stalin, Concerning the International Situation

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          Absolutely.

          In Russia with capitalist restoration for the first time since the Black Hundreds you saw neonazis hunting migrant workers in Moscow. In the land of the USSR that knew 50+ ethnicities all working in harmony....Migrants were being hunted by neonazis.

          You saw Russia become a haven for White Supremascist movements and you saw marches in celebration all over Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine for their nazi collaborators which they continue each year

          In the West we saw the utter collapse of the Workers movements and a roll back of all the workers rights we won. One of the older Communists in my party spoke of how everythings gone - how British workers used to get 2 15 minute tea breaks per 8 hour shift and I was gobsmacked at that.

          What I'm trying to say was written a lot more nicely by Stalin and Parenti

          “What would happen if capital succeeded in smashing the Republic of Soviets? There would set in an era of the blackest reaction in all the capitalist and colonial countries, the working class and the oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat, the positions of international communism would be lost.”

          ~ J. V. STALIN, Speech at The Seventh Enlarged Plenum of the E.C.C.I. (December 1926).

          The overthrow of Eastern European and Soviet communist governments was cheered by many left intellectuals. Now democracy would have its day. The people would be free from the yoke of communism and the U.S. Left would be free from the albatross of existing communism, or as left theorist Richard Lichtman put it, “liberated from the incubus of the Soviet Union and the succubus of Communist China.”

          In fact, the capitalist restoration in Eastern Europe seriously weakened the numerous Third World liberation struggles that had received aid from the Soviet Union and brought a whole new crop of right-wing governments into existence, ones that now worked hand-in-glove with U.S. global counterrevolutionaries around the globe.

          In addition, the overthrow of communism gave the green light to the unbridled exploitative impulses of Western corporate interests. No longer needing to convince workers that they live better than their counterparts in Russia, no longer restrained by a competing system, the corporate class is rolling back the many gains that working people have won over the years. Now that the free market, in its meanest form, is emerging triumphant in the East, so will it prevail in the West. “Capitalism with a human face” is being replaced by “capitalism in your face.” As Richard Levins put it, “So in the new exuberant aggressiveness of world capitalism we see what communists and their allies had held at bay” (Monthly Review, 9/96).

          Having never understood the role that existing communist powers played in tempering the worst impulses of Western capitalism, and having perceived communism as nothing but an unmitigated evil, the left anticommunists did not anticipate the losses that were to come. Some of them still don’t get it.

          Parenti - Left AntiCommunism: The Unkindest Cut