i like that the op ignore the mass protests in bolivia, the class between the MAS supporters and the military, the arming of the protesters, that MAS is an actual labour party that actually cares about is people, and most importantly MAS organized the protests instead of denouncing them, link

  • cum_drinker69 [any]
    1·
    4 years ago

    Go read the moronic comments in that reddit thread and then come back and admit you're wrong.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
      5·
      4 years ago

      The first three top-level comments all point out how Bolivians did a lot more than just show up at the polls. Here's the next comment:

      Maybe it’s privileged of me to say but I have transgender family who are terrified of a second trump term. We all know Biden is a shit head scumbag but anyone arguing that he’s EXACTLY the same as Trump is just ignorant. You’re not cooler and edgier than everyone else because you’re not going to vote. You can vote for a lesser evil and also continue to work to dismantle capitalism. I’d much rather protest and organize and push to unionize workplaces under Biden than under trump.

      Agree with that or not, it sure isn't portraying Biden as some ally to the left.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
              5·
              4 years ago

              No, it's not, not even close:

              We all know Biden is a shit head scumbag

              You also don't organize and protest under a president who's an ally:

              I’d much rather protest and organize and push to unionize workplaces under Biden

              We should not be bending over backwards to invent reasons to be pissed at other leftist communities. That's the definition of wrecker shit.

                • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
                  7·
                  4 years ago

                  Wrecker shit is ignoring the plain meaning of something as obvious as "Biden is a shit head scumbag" and insisting that the leftist who said that is actually "nationalist, chauvinist, [and] racist."

                  What is wrecking if not ignoring what someone says to accuse them of having unspoken bad intentions?

                    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
                      2·
                      4 years ago

                      They’re arguing that Biden is the lesser evil

                      Which means they're not portraying him as an ally. That was my original point.

                      which again, is only true if non-American lives are worth less than American lives

                      That assumes Biden will be worse for non-Americans than Trump, which is highly debatable. For example, if you're Iranian, and you went from a significant diplomatic agreement under Obama to nearly being invaded by Trump, you might think Biden is the lesser evil.

                        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
                          2·
                          4 years ago

                          Here's what I initially responded to:

                          Go read the moronic comments in that reddit thread [about "thinking Joe Biden is your ally in any way shape or form"]

                          I pointed out that this did not seem to be the common sentiment, and gave a high-profile example of someone saying Biden sucks (i.e., is not an ally). We should not be mischaracterizing other leftsists' positions.

                          I'm not going to debate you about semantics or about every other comment in that thread.