all hatespeech also has the same effect: driving political minorities out of public life, building the base for fascism to grow its roots. it's the degree of harm that varies, not the kind. so the severity of the response should also vary but a socialist society should absolutely outlaw hatespeech, just as it should expropriate private property. reeducation should absolutely follow for everyone but committed fascists. bigots should be afraid to spew their bile. is it harsh? absolutely. but as someone who's personally been chased by a group of bigots screaming slurs with the obvious intent to beat me, allowing them to move openly only helps them build power and enables precisely those sorts of attacks.
I think they are being a little unserious. Maybe they're in a mood or something. I don't think this approach would increase hatred except to the state, but you would also literally have most of society in prison, so . . .
the more serious answer is that you suspend the sentences for minor offenders and attempt to rehabilitate them. repeat offenders need to be separated from society with more intensive reeducation. but the threat needs to be there to prevent them from organizing against the state by stoking latent bigotries.
but something laxer like a conservative grandma complaining about gay people on her personal facebook and things like that, i wouldn't think she deserves to go to jail
But hate and hate speech always start small like the conservative grandma. That's why you have to put the "fear of god" in them for even the smallest infractions. If they know they'll get "wished into a cornfield" for just saying "I hate...", then curbing hate speech becomes more effective.
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neither is manslaughter. reduced or stayed sentences make sense but it's still best to stamp it out.
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all hatespeech also has the same effect: driving political minorities out of public life, building the base for fascism to grow its roots. it's the degree of harm that varies, not the kind. so the severity of the response should also vary but a socialist society should absolutely outlaw hatespeech, just as it should expropriate private property. reeducation should absolutely follow for everyone but committed fascists. bigots should be afraid to spew their bile. is it harsh? absolutely. but as someone who's personally been chased by a group of bigots screaming slurs with the obvious intent to beat me, allowing them to move openly only helps them build power and enables precisely those sorts of attacks.
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they can feel however they like. the important thing is that there's a threat of violence associated with continuing to be a bigot.
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it's not pleasant, but it's important to remember that they can opt out of future consequences by simply choosing to be different.
the targets of their hate don't have that luxury. they will always be targets.
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I think they are being a little unserious. Maybe they're in a mood or something. I don't think this approach would increase hatred except to the state, but you would also literally have most of society in prison, so . . .
the more serious answer is that you suspend the sentences for minor offenders and attempt to rehabilitate them. repeat offenders need to be separated from society with more intensive reeducation. but the threat needs to be there to prevent them from organizing against the state by stoking latent bigotries.
But hate and hate speech always start small like the conservative grandma. That's why you have to put the "fear of god" in them for even the smallest infractions. If they know they'll get "wished into a cornfield" for just saying "I hate...", then curbing hate speech becomes more effective.
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